Savage Alexander and the Paladin Exodus

[Nadirah]

I've had a suspicion for awhile that the developers don't realize how strong WAR's defensive kit is--in fact, I don't think a lot of the playerbase does, either.

I don't know about the JP playerbase, but the EU and NA practically live on sims and numbers.

Of course, we all know that those numbers don't actually equate to how things work out, but rather a theoretical. So while something can look completely friggin OP, it could require the stars to align for it to work, which may never in practice happen. Same thing goes the other way. "Oh that's useless".. because the math is saying other stuff, reliant on perfection, says so.

[Shining_Tiger_Excalibur]

Please look forward to 3.1 when Paladins still do the least DPS of any tank class, and can't clear the content without literally months of extra gear.

A part of me actually wants them to try and cater to us just to have it backfire.

[RocheKat]

I think you have to actually be the best defensive tank in order to continue to be the best defensive tank. For what it's worth, YoshiP also said Warrior was strong in 2.0. He's overseeing the whole project, so the finer points of balance might elude him sometimes.

Many people may not remember just how bad warrior was back then then they said it was "fine". Right now raid design is causing a lot of issues for pld which was sort of true for war back then... but had they made content it would of put paladin into broken mitigation land. In 2.1 most of warriors abilities had a threat increase, TP decrease, duration increase, cooldown decrease or in the case of Inner Beast 20% damage reduction added to it. Those are some massive buffs for a class that was "fine".

Pld and Drk need some minor tweaks and they should be good.

[OPneedNerfs]

Many people may not remember just how bad warrior was back then then they said it was "fine". Right now raid design is causing a lot of issues for pld which was sort of true for war back then... but had they made content it would of put paladin into broken mitigation land. In 2.1 most of warriors abilities had a threat increase, TP decrease, duration increase, cooldown decrease or in the case of Inner Beast 20% damage reduction added to it. Those are some massive buffs for a class that was "fine".

Pld and Drk need some minor tweaks and they should be good.

That's why he said PLD was "not weak". Not "fine" anymore. xD

[Kiara]

To: Dev Team,

Can we get a response on this rather important issue regarding Paladin imbalance?

There have been hundreds of posts, feedback from players about the problems with Paladin, and all we're met with is... silence.

Yet we get a Dev Team response on... AFROS? Seriously?

That's a fun item, but for major, fundamental issues it seems we almost never get a response on these issues, which are so important to the well-being of the game and player base.

Thanks.

[Kemas]

Don't forget the "small QoL" topic regarding shield preview display ironically. They never fail to impress. Zzz

[Zumi]

To: Dev Team,

Can we get a response on this rather important issue regarding Paladin imbalance?

There have been hundreds of posts, feedback from players about the problems with Paladin, and all we're met with is... silence.

Yet we get a Dev Team response on... AFROS? Seriously?

That's a fun item, but for major, fundamental issues it seems we almost never get a response on these issues, which are so important to the well-being of the game and player base.

Thanks.

Yoshi P already said in one of the live letters awhile ago that Paladins will do the least amount of damage out of all the tanks.

[Kemas]

Did you read what you bolded? I didn't see a mention of dps. PLD raid utility and damage mitigation is the imbalance he's referring to(which drk and war are both better at atm while also being the strongest tank dps output)

[Gamer3427]

While I don't main tank, and only secondary healer, from what I've always been able to tell, PLD is the defensive tank, WAR is the offensive tank, and DRK is the middleground. This means that each has a role to play in endgame content. The problem right now isn't that PLD needs buffs, but that the current raids weren't designed properly balanced, and require more DPS than you can possibly put out with just the DPS roles combined with average damage output from Healers and Tanks. It's one thing to design a challenging run with the idea that other roles will be doing more damage, but it's another thing to require it. If they wanted the raids to be balanced properly, then they would have built it around healers being forced to maintain healing constantly, (harder damage over all, DoTs that have to be frequently esunaed, ect), tanks having to focus on aggro maitenence, (maybe a skill or two that causes the target to randomly generate aggro on a party member), and DPS to be able to take down targets as a group without having to rely on the other roles to contribute significant damage. Instead however, content is balanced so that DPS is the only real stat that matters if healers have their cooldowns ready and tanks have built up a bit of aggro. Again, it's not a problem with PLD, it's a problem with the content balance in general......

[Hix]

There is never going to be a role for "defensive tank" in the highest level of content unless the defensive tank is the only one who can survive the mechanics.