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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixy View Post
    word of mouth method is by far the worst method to advertise a game. look at Heroes of Newerth for instance, it had no ads, no commercials, nothing. it struggled to maintain 30k people online at a time.

    then look at League of Legends, they have ads everywhere, and have millions of people playing.

    the player who comes back to the game when it is completely polished will spread advertisement through word of mouth, but not yet. they really need to focus on new player experience and basic UI / combat bugs and mechanics.

    I have 3 friends i word of mouthed this game to and they quit within a week due to horrible ui (lag) and combat system being clunky as balls. this was during 1.18, or right before it came out.
    word of mouth is bad if that is the ONLY thing they used to advertise, but if they don't make their current playerbase happy, it definitely wont end well either when people decided to rageangry at gamesites that does reviews, this isnt something they should be taking a risk with.

    Most people will read reviews before trying this game out because next advertisement will be re-release/second launch.
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    hope it is not instanced.
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    Obviliously more mature than you are though... I did not see him at one time verbally demean you... Yet you think calling someone a moron or "rofl how dumb is this kid" going to aid in your arguement?
    As you said you have not had much sleep, I believe this is a good time for you to go get some so you can come back refreshed and even-tempered.

    Edit: Good show Fixy! changing your post so as to hide the fact of your true moral's. As you said I must have bad moral's. Because I stick to what I say and don't go back and change it to save face when I get called out on it.
    -.- ugh on that note... I am not going to even attempt to talk reason anymore with Fixy... I am done with this Drama, let us get back to the topic at hand which is Beastman Strongholds and how awesome it is they are being added! Not on business practice's and grammer!
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    Last edited by Xmbei; 09-12-2011 at 11:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixy View Post
    im comparing methods of advertisement, not game genre moron. rofl how dumb is this kid.

    all i did was say wall of text. it doesnt matter what country you come from or what language you speak, you learn to avoid that. tell me, are you tired of typing out huge pointless paragraphs that have no meaning to what i have said with absolute perfect grammar, scared that big old me will correct you somewhere? because i wouldnt care to at all.

    ffs guy, everything i have said you have taken out of context. and yes, acquiring new players right now is a high priority when you can perfect the general mechanics of the game, making it playable to a large mass, which is my whole point.
    Sorry, but what? I've been at least giving your points the time of day but you seem to be pretty much disregarding what I'm saying. League of Legends is popular for different reasons such as it being FREE TO PLAY like I mentioned, you can't specifically say it's because of their marketing strategy specifically, even if it would help. This is why I said it wasn't comparable.

    You didn't just say wall of text, hence me quoting the parts where you claimed to be a grammar nazi and said someone's post was pointless because of an incorrect use of the English language, I even quoted you on it, where's the confusion? As for my own grammar, I type pretty quickly and send a lot of well-written emails as part of my job, it comes naturally to me now so I apologise if you were happy to think it's something to do with you. It isn't.

    As for your final point, 'perfecting the general mechanics of the game' takes more than just saying it. This is why you aren't running a large MMO and Yoshida is, he's aware of what needs to be done and has cemented it with the higher ups in the company. They're obviously confident in his direction because he's still there 8 months on and the game is still going. As I've said previously, and as they've said themselves, they're working towards the PS3 release as a 'second launch', acquiring new players isn't important to them at this exact moment and despite that we know for a fact they're working on tutorials for new players and dealing with important fundamental problems with the game.

    Anyway, I won't be replying and restating these points again because it's apparent your glazed eyes cannot even reach the end of my post so you feel compelled to just say exactly what you've said before all the while trying to call me a 'dumb kid'.

    WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY MAIN POINT OF.......... adding more end game content is a waste of money right now when the game is free, and it does not matter if people (50s) quit or not now because they WILL come back later. the priority now should be not to poison the minds of people just starting to play.
    All the while disenfranchising the current population and making them feel like they're being ignored, leading to them bad-mouthing the game and discouraging others from playing it.

    Sounds like sound business advice to me.
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    Last edited by Sephr; 09-13-2011 at 12:03 AM.

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    I'm more interested what's in the chests.... Please for the love of god noooooooo dark mater! I hate getting it esp in the R45 Dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coombah View Post
    I'm more interested what's in the chests.... Please for the love of god noooooooo dark mater! I hate getting it esp in the R45 Dungeon.
    I want shiny Gems. Lots of shiny Gems
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    Content is just as important as bug fixes if you ask me. If they would have focused on only fixing bugs and improving the game's UI then nobody would be playing at all. There wouldn't be anything to do.

    And by the way, Fixy, if you're going to rip on people for their bad grammar, perhaps you should take a lesson in punctuation and letter case. Any first grader will tell you that all sentences start with capital letters and words like "doesn't" and "shouldn't" have apostrophes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    word of mouth is bad if that is the ONLY thing they used to advertise, but if they don't make their current playerbase happy, it definitely wont end well either when people decided to rageangry at gamesites that does reviews, this isnt something they should be taking a risk with.

    Most people will read reviews before trying this game out because next advertisement will be re-release/second launch.
    thats fine and all, but will this little investment really make anyone extremely happy? unlikely. i still think the better marketing at the moment is to get all the new players who join to stay, from my own experience of friends quitting so quickly.
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    "Your" is possessive. "You're" means you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    Content is just as important as bug fixes if you ask me. If they would have focused on only fixing bugs and improving the game's UI then nobody would be playing at all. There wouldn't be anything to do.

    And by the way, Fixy, if you're going to rip on people for their bad grammar, perhaps you should take a lesson in punctuation and letter case. Any first grader will tell you that all sentences start with capital letters and words like "doesn't" and "shouldn't" have apostrophes.
    ive already said i type internet slang, and i have ripped on one thing, a wall of text. my rips are on people that misuse your and you're and such. take the time to read. do you honestly think i dont know how to punctuate? im not writing a 30 page mla format essay on the meaning of starry night by vincent van gogh, im typing on the internet, nerd.
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    "Your" is possessive. "You're" means you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixy View Post
    ive already said i type internet slang, and i have ripped on one thing, a wall of text. my rips are on people that misuse your and you're and such. take the time to read. do you honestly think i dont know how to punctuate? im not writing an essay, im typing on the internet, nerd.
    Lol

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