Beastman Strongholds

[Fixy]

Edit: You get a C+ for that piece, keep going though you'll get the English language in the end. However, I would say that by your logic, this post is totally redundant until this is correct is it not?

go and nitpick every piece of my slang internet typing. it makes you look incredibly intelligent, like, your IQ must be over 200. Seriously. especially when you cant grasp concepts of basic business.

[naaros]

in my humble opinion they really shouldnt be focusing on keeping current players playing rather than welcoming new players to the game, as there is much to do for a new player (assuming said new player has mmo experience and can tolerate the games glaring problems that creep onto you the second you accept leve quests). that will create more sales and current players know the game will be sub worthy in due time.

the game is free. it doesnt matter if current players stop playing or not.

Is there any reason why you quoted me when you said that? lol. I don't think my post was talking about current or new players at all. Just talking about the possible instancing of the strongholds and no requirement for number of people who can enter.

[Chardrizard]

stopped reading there. because it costs money on a game that is thriving on zero revenue, smart guy.

if new players join, and STAY, it is a much better long term investment.

No new players will join if there are no current players to advertise.

[Sephr]

go and nitpick every piece of my slang internet typing. it makes you look incredibly intelligent, like, your IQ must be over 200. Seriously. especially when you cant grasp concepts of basic business.

I was more pointing out the irony of you insulting others and saying their posts are meaningless until they correct their own grammar and spelling. But good job picking up on my intention, it certainly made you a stand out for title of 'sharpest tool in the shed', that's for sure.

I'll thank you for not trying to give me a lecture on business as I get plenty of them during term times, what I do know is that an apparent stoner is trying to give a very successful company hints and tips on how to develop their game with little to no foresight and apparently no research into what they're doing at present?
We already know they're making the game more accessible with tutorials as well as fixing the functionality of the game (See http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...193#post333193 for reference, which came out TODAY), so I'd say they've taken your advice on board already, if anything.

[Xmbei]

Is there any reason why you quoted me when you said that? lol. I don't think my post was talking about current or new players at all. Just talking about the possible instancing of the strongholds and no requirement for number of people who can enter.

Might of confused you for me? Idk... I some how incurred his/her wrath, because I disagreed on 70% and it went downhill from there.... Fixy has been being rather defensive against everyone from then on out... So my apologize to everyone.

[Fixy]

I was more pointing out the irony of you insulting others and saying their posts are meaningless until they correct their own grammar and spelling. But good job picking up on my intention, it certainly made you a stand out for title of 'sharpest tool in the shed', that's for sure.

I'll thank you for not trying to give me a lecture on business as I get plenty of them during term times, what I do know is that an apparent stoner is trying to give a very successful company hints and tips on how to develop their game with little to no foresight and apparently no research into what they're doing at present?
We already know they're making the game more accessible with tutorials as well as fixing the functionality of the game (See http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...193#post333193 for reference, which came out TODAY), so I'd say they've taken your advice on board already, if anything.

i said a guy had a wall of text. rofl..

[Fixy]

No new players will join if there are no current players to advertise.

word of mouth method is by far the worst method to advertise a game. look at Heroes of Newerth for instance, it had no ads, no commercials, nothing. it struggled to maintain 30k people online at a time.

then look at League of Legends, they have ads everywhere, and have millions of people playing.

the player who comes back to the game when it is completely polished will spread advertisement through word of mouth, but not yet. they really need to focus on new player experience and basic UI / combat bugs and mechanics.

I have 3 friends i word of mouthed this game to and they quit within a week due to horrible ui (lag) and combat system being clunky as balls. this was during 1.18, or right before it came out.

[PrettyPrincess]

Unlikely. Not only Sylphs are on our side - even tho there a few Sylphs you can battle, they aren't aggressive - they also

got kicked from their home by the Garleans

Perhaps...PERHAPS THEY SHALL TAKE THEIR REVENGE!?

[Sephr]

stopped reading there. because it costs money on a game that is thriving on zero revenue, smart guy.

if new players join, and STAY, it is a much better long term investment.

I missed that before, but I'll address it now for your benefit. You're aware they're working towards the PS3 release as the last chance for this game right? I imagine they'll push advertising and awareness then, but right now (as evidenced by the fact they don't show the game at conventions etc) they want to keep it fairly quiet and just fix it up. Acquiring new players right just now isn't going to yield much revenue considering the game is so cheap, and it's free to play remember?

Good job for not reading further though, that really helps me respect your point of view, at least I did that courtesy for your poorly written pieces.

thats all fair enough. i am a grammar nazi and cant stand when people over the age of 20 dont know how to properly use words. my error was due to lack of sleep and drugs as stated above. plus, i am typing pretty quickly. being a bored insomniac with crohns isnt all fun and games..... sometimes...

i mean come on, they're COMPLETELY different words and using them out of place makes your statement meaningless.

what was it, like, 2nd grade we learned this stuff?

This was what I was commenting on with my previous post. Insulting others for their capability with the English language despite numerous variables such as second languages and dyslexia and then proving incapable of using it yourself is ironic and entertaining to me.

Edit: Also, League of Legends isn't really a comparable game to this, you might as well compare it with Runescape if you're looking at free-to-play as the benchmark. Advertising right now is a waste of money because as you said, there are high barriers to entry, and therefore -right now- word of mouth definitely will be the sole driving force of getting new players. However, it certainly won't be the only method they'll use in the coming months/year.

[Fixy]

I missed that before, but I'll address it now for your benefit. You're aware they're working towards the PS3 release as the last chance for this game right? I imagine they'll push advertising and awareness then, but right now (as evidenced by the fact they don't show the game at conventions etc) they want to keep it fairly quiet and just fix it up. Acquiring new players right just now isn't going to yield much revenue considering the game is so cheap, and it's free to play remember?

Good job for not reading further though, that really helps me respect your point of view, at least I did that courtesy for your poorly written pieces.





This was what I was commenting on with my previous post. Insulting others for their capability with the English language despite numerous variables such as second languages and dyslexia and then proving incapable of using it yourself is ironic and entertaining to me.

Edit: Also, League of Legends isn't really a comparable game to this, you might as well compare it with Runescape if you're looking at free-to-play as the benchmark. Advertising right now is a waste of money because as you said, there are high barriers to entry, and therefore -right now- word of mouth definitely will be the sole driving force of getting new players. However, it certainly won't be the only method they'll use in the coming months/year.

im comparing methods of advertisement, not game genre moron. rofl how dumb is this kid.

all i did was say wall of text. it doesnt matter what country you come from or what language you speak, you learn to avoid that. tell me, are you tired of typing out huge pointless paragraphs that have no meaning to what i have said with absolute perfect grammar, scared that big old me will correct you somewhere? because i wouldnt care to at all.

ffs guy, everything i have said you have taken out of context. i never said anything about them needing to advertise this game. (atm) and yes, acquiring new players right now is a high priority when you can perfect the general mechanics of the game, making it playable to a large mass, making people STAY and not quit within one week. which is my whole point...

do you know how many people just randomly go buy this game for pc, play it for a week, then trash it to never return? A lot. if they made basic things better this probably wouldnt happen, least the player may return in the future at best.

WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY MAIN POINT OF.......... adding more end game content is a waste of money right now when the game is free, and it does not matter if people (50s) quit or not now because they WILL come back later. the priority now should be not to poison the minds of people just starting to play.

basic mechanics come first, fluff comes next. examine the old patches of the most famous mmo on the market for instance.