We need a mercy rule.

[RellSarkas]

Today i made Boltmaster's slacks. I don't have a lot of money so I gathered everything myself. I'm paranoid so everything for the final craft was HQ except the aethersand and demimateria. Red scrips included, I'd estimate that one crafting attempt represented a week and a half worth of playtime for me.

RNG was not kind. Many HT failed. I got NQ from 89% HQ chance.

I can't face doing this over again for every single piece, for every single class. The risk is just too high on the final craft.

They had a kind of mercy rule for Lucis tokens where you didn't lose the most valuable components off a NQ result, and the risk was much lower per craft. Why not include a mercy rule for the 2 star gear to let you turn in a NQ (aka useless) item and get your Astral Silk or whatever back?

[MicahZerrshia]

Don't worry, it will be vastly outdated a patch or two from now. They will likely add a mercy rule in when the 3.x series gets closer to the end to keep the top on the top til 4.0

Gotta love pure vertical progression

[Caimie_Tsukino]

I am terribly sorry to hear that.

Yes, the time we put into this is just too much. I think they really need some kind of mercy rule to exchange the NQ back for the 2 star mats. It's ok to let the 1 star mats go, but at least give us back the Astral Silk / Astral Lumber, which represents our weekly Red Scrips (Crafter & Gatherer's scrips) and Favor gathering time.

[Ohiuu]

Ouch, my condolences. This isn't a bad idea considering the steep limitations on acquiring these mats in the first place. I, however, feel that would just be a two-bit compromise and the real crux is the steep gating (thereby inflating) of these mats in the first place. Without a viable way to make gil in the two star world, this only becomes more painful. Not that it helps this particular situation but if you plan to continue gearing your DoH classes I would recommend you focus on HQing tools and stack those HQ mats up for your initial blacksmithing synths. The tools (particularly OHs) give you the best stat gains and as you continue to gear yourself, you'll be able to take more of a beating in the bad luck department and still come out with an HQ. Also make sure to slot reclaim although at 89% I would have just gone for it as well. I recall tossing out a pretty long stream of obscenities at 1AM when I NQed the LTW chest. The risk makes it a thrill but the lack of a return just makes this kind of thing a tragedy instead of an "Oh damn, well back to the drawing board" moment. Not fun.

[Culfinrandir]

I am so fearful of situations like this that I don't do high level crafting with rare mats - pathetic but true! I definitely think there should be a possibility to return to your guildmaster & say "I screwed up, can you desynth this into the rare mats?". After all, they're supposedly the best in the land so why can't they unpick a leather waistcoat to retrieve the correctly cut pieces & the thread that sewed it together?

[ServerCollaps]

then people would just abuse it (starting the synth with NQ mats only and craft them like 10 times until they get 1 HQ version), its fine as it is

[RellSarkas]

Not that it helps this particular situation but if you plan to continue gearing your DoH classes I would recommend you focus on HQing tools and stack those HQ mats up for your initial blacksmithing synths. The tools (particularly OHs) give you the best stat gains and as you continue to gear yourself, you'll be able to take more of a beating in the bad luck department and still come out with an HQ.

Thanks for the advice. I actually bought the red scrip MH tool for weaver as my first red scrip purchase. My reasoning was that it would allow me ease into 2* without needing a super melded IL 150 set, combined with the fact that the crafted main hands are next to impossible to get up to the stats of the purchased ones. I'll definitely work on the OH items next, though.

[RellSarkas]

than people would just abuse it (starting the synth with NQ mats only and craft them like 10 times until they get 1 HQ version), its fine as it is

Given that the other materials for these synths are not cheap, and given that even NQ ingredients require you to spend some red scrips getting them, I wouldn't call doing the craft 10 times for 1 item abusive.

[Culfinrandir]

than people would just abuse it (starting the synth with NQ mats only and craft them like 10 times until they get 1 HQ version), its fine as it is

Unless it's a one off - which it could easily be made to be. I don't see it causing "server collapse" (see what I did there? if it's a one off per craft. Obviously it would only be on certain top tier crafts & the guildmaster would give you a dressing down for messing up such an important craft & offer a one off desynth. You could then never go back for a second desynth of the same item.

It basically serves as a second chance and if you mess up again, tough. It would allow for those 'brain farts' when you click the wrong button but certainly couldn't be used as a 'do over until I get HQ'.

[ServerCollaps]

Given that the other materials for these synths are not cheap, and given that even NQ ingredients require you to spend some red scrips getting them, I wouldn't call doing the craft 10 times for 1 item abusive.

they are cheap, aether sand in NQ is worthless, folklore items in NQ are worthless, demimateria are worthless, everything is worthless except the red scrip items, which cost probably 2m all together. Given the fact that you get them back for every NQ try makes it incredible cheap to HQ everything without expenses