Additiona freel retainers

[KingOfAbyss]

We are very limited in resources for data. (PS3 Limitations?)

Resources are mainly being used for other content. (which ones?)

Also the more items that you carry/ the larger your storage becomes, the more strain it creates on the servers and resources, which could potentially lead to longer load times and heavier server loads. (Oh My god, just increase the storage capacity of the servers with our 2$ per month per rextra retainer and 25$ for Odin's horse!! Sell Carbuncle plushies again since they are out-of-stock, so you are making money already..)

Consider paying extra $$ extra to pay for their extra work (i.e. Vacation time, pushing back patches) to provide you special treatment ("special treatment?" BS) and tipping them (I don't want to tip them, it's a business and they are not waiters, but developers.) for their next big server upgrades. (cough cough)

I'm sure one day when things become more stable, they will increase inventory slots. (so far then, it means it's still unstable?)

But then again, if that time comes (will it ever, after 2 years?), soon (Blizzard fav word) after that we will still ask for more slots. In a sense it's better this way right now. (is it really?)

As you can see in bold, these are my reaction from all of this Bullcrap.

I am paying for retainers because that's the only way they enforce it. You pay for extra inventory slots, which they swear they have no more room for it. Else it would be unstable. But they still managed to increase the inventory through these paying retainers. See the catch?

They just are greedy as every other business. And as such, I'll consider them not my friends that they want us to have a good time, but for them to make sure Square Enix is in good $$ Shape.

We all know they can do better.

And yes, one Free retainer per Expansion should be a minimum.

Yoshi-P is a PR. He's doing his job. The rest is just shareholders that wants more with the least investment, as with any other companies, big or small. I am not getting fooled.

[Kosmos992k]

I'd like to see them adding an additional free retainer based on either the number of expansions, or the number of city states. We had 2 retainers for 3 city states, now we have 4 city states, I feel like we need an additional retainer to cover that additional scope.

Quite apart from that, in ARR we started with 2 retainers for 20 DoW/DoM/DoL/DoH jobs. The system was designed around/balanced for that many jobs space requirement. Since then we've had 1 new class and 4 new jobs added to the game - with all their gear, plus the new battle gear; along with a huge number of new items and crafting recipes and new crafting systems. They talked about the expansion adding a whole game's worth of content, and yet we did not gain any additional storage space as standard within the game.

I think it's fair to ask for an additional free retainer as standard for all players that reach Ishgard. I think it's fair in future to request either an additional standard, free, retainer be added with each expansion since the expansion brings expanded need for storage. Or ask for an additional retainer to be added with each new city state added to the game.

As you can see in bold, these are my reaction from all of this Bullcrap.

The number of retainers has NOTHING to do with "PS3" or any "limitations" you or anyone else imagines it creates.

[KingOfAbyss]

The number of retainers has NOTHING to do with "PS3" or any "limitations" you or anyone else imagines it creates.

Lol you can't read between lines, can't you?

Those were sarcastic remarks; the fact that they say whatever they want to sleep the masses.

Look here: "Also the more items that you carry/ the larger your storage becomes, the more strain it creates on the servers and resources, which could potentially lead to longer load times and heavier server loads."

With that statement only, they shouldn't even have offered paying retainers and kept it a 2 Max per character, as this puts more strain on the servers. But hey, they are making money out of it, who cares about instability?

[Kosmos992k]

Lol you can't read between lines, can't you?

I must have been reading to quickly...my apologies.

Look here: "Also the more items that you carry/ the larger your storage becomes, the more strain it creates on the servers and resources, which could potentially lead to longer load times and heavier server loads."

With that statement only, they shouldn't even have offered paying retainers and kept it a 2 Max per character, as this puts more strain on the servers. But hey, they are making money out of it, who cares about instability?

Indeed, you are correct, this is the kind of statement they make that confuses things. Technically if something is held on a retainer your storage is no larger and you are not carrying the item(s) in question. In other words, retainers are not part of what is backed up with your character every 15 seconds, so they are being misleading when they suggest or imply that additional retainer space would cause problems. Since they allow up to 6 paid retainers now, there clearly is not a problem with additional retainers. They should have given an additional retainer for the price of HW and continuing your sub.

[KingOfAbyss]

I must have been reading to quickly...my apologies.



Indeed, you are correct, this is the kind of statement they make that confuses things. Technically if something is held on a retainer your storage is no larger and you are not carrying the item(s) in question. In other words, retainers are not part of what is backed up with your character every 15 seconds, so they are being misleading when they suggest or imply that additional retainer space would cause problems. Since they allow up to 6 paid retainers now, there clearly is not a problem with additional retainers. They should have given an additional retainer for the price of HW and continuing your sub.

Heya Kosmos

I see you a lot on the forums, thanks for your time to participate in it, your voice counts!

It takes 2 to Tango they say, so yeah, I might be guilty as well of not explaining things as precise as it should be *blushes*

And yep, + 6 Paid retainers.. everything is fine on that side of the fence.

so I'm expecting from them, not what a PR could say, but being transparent (I doubt they can sadly, so that's why Yoshi is doing what he should, being paid to be the guy in front of us.)

Just like news where the police can tell the journalists what to and what not to say to us, he might be bound by higher-than-him.. Ascians

[Kosmos992k]

Heya Kosmos

I see you a lot on the forums, thanks for your time to participate in it, your voice counts!
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Just like news where the police can tell the journalists what to and what not to say to us, he might be bound by higher-than-him.. Ascians

Many thanks.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Sometimes those shadowy figures want a specific message, sometimes they want silence, but always there is a price for disobedience. Still, I'd like to think though that Yoshi has gained some political capital from resurrecting FFXIV, and far exceeding the initial expectations of player numbers. He (Yoshi-P) has done something that is either very rare, or without precedent in gaming, he should be able to throw his weight around a bit more.

[AdamFyi]

Since they allow up to 6 paid retainers now, there clearly is not a problem with additional retainers. They should have given an additional retainer for the price of HW and continuing your sub.

Just want to address this because I keep seeing it come up from time to time when it comes to discussing about inventory space; One player gaining extra retainers does not amount to the entire playerbase gaining the same amount. Please actually consider that. Though, I wouldn't mind an additional retainer.

[Kosmos992k]

Just want to address this because I keep seeing it come up from time to time when it comes to discussing about inventory space; One player gaining extra retainers does not amount to the entire playerbase gaining the same amount. Please actually consider that. Though, I wouldn't mind an additional retainer.

I wasn't saying anything about one player getting something equating to the entire playerbase, I was simply making the point that the storage requirement for retainer space is separate from character storage, so the usual bandwidth related excuses are not relevant.

Since HW was pitched more or less as a new game in the FFXIV world/system. I think it's fair to wonder why we did not get an additional retainer along with the new jobs considering we paid the price of a new game. We got two with ARR, the cost of HW was 2/3 the cost of ARR, so we should get at least 1 additional retainer, don't you think?

[AdamFyi]

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It was meant in a general sense; not just you. Retainers still take up resources, whether you like it or not.

[FoxyAreku]

I honestly don't know how people have inventory problems unless they keep every little bit of gear and crafting mat they get.

I will say though, we will need a free extra retainer at some point. The more items they add to the game, even the most dedicated of non-hoarders will run out of space eventually.