FF14 Heavensward Gathering Guide by Caimie Tsukino

[Lastelli]

Unfortunately, I cannot answer your question with 100% confident. Although I have obtained most of the Folklore tomes, I have never used them for Red Scrips. I have developed my "schedule" of Red Scrips + Blue Scrips run, and it involves Chysahl Green -> Adam Ore -> Morel -> Cuprite.

Yeah, this is what I've being doing as well...those morels tho, I always think I won't make it in time lol
Anyway, yesterday I decided to try myself so I melded my equip. My stats (food included, that is NQ Dzemael Gratin which can be bought for 457 gil at the Jeweled Crozier) are 647 Gathering, 658 Perception and 657 GP. First, legendary nodes for botanist appear at 5 and 7 pm, for miner at 5 and 7 am and this is true for every legendary node for the respective gatherer. So you can still follow your old schedule and add 1 star items.
Now, I tried a very simple rotation to collect a 1 star item with high enough collectability: (DE + Impulsive) x3 (600 total GP) and then 2 chances at collect. With 658 perception I reached 468 collectability, that is 2 points lower than the minimum requirement. When collecting, I passed the 470 threshold thanks to the bonus.
Also, I discovered something that I haven't read anywere: when building collectability (or maybe also when normally gathering from legendary nodes, not sure about that) for 1* items, there's a chance that a bonus appears: your next action will have reduced GP cost. I was able to save 50 GP thanks to that, so I was left with more than 100 GP and I could use sharp vision II to get to 95% success rate for collect, which is not bad. So I was able to collect 2 items worth 15 scrips each, 18 with the bonus. I plan to try again next week to see if it's worth it, but atm my opinion is that it would be a good idea to gather collectable 1* items when they have the star for red scrips bonus. You can basically cut the time you spend gathering for red scrips by half if you don't fail too many times at 80-95%.


UPDATE: I've just tried again and I can confirm the following:
1) the reduced GP cost bonus is only for collectable actions when gathering from legendary nodes, it's -50 GP for the next collectable action only and it probably procs with a 20-30% probability (sample is still too small, needs further investigation);
2) Collectability cap for single appraisal actions is much higher than it is for Chysahl Greens and Adamantite Ores, so further increasing perception is a good idea: using Landtrap Salad HQ my Perception is 671, which resulted in 495 collectability after 3x(DE+impulsive), 509 after collecting the item for 2 successful collects (each worth 16 scrips or a little more if there's the star bonus). Of course more sophisticated rotations will surely yield better results.

To conclude, with high enough stats using legendary nodes to make the red scrips grind faster is actually possible. "High enough stats" means having around 650 gathering (to uncover the item with one hit), 660 perception and 650+ gp and those are easily achievable using melded equip, ilvl 180 gear (or a combination of the two) and food.

[Silverbane]

1) the reduced GP cost bonus is only for collectable actions when gathering from legendary nodes, it's -50 GP for the next collectable action only and it probably procs with a 20-30% probability (sample is still too small, needs further investigation);

It's not always -50GP. I have had a -150GP bonus.

We made a Weighted Adamantite Sledgehammer for my wife late last night. We haven't checked the effect of it's stats boost on the collectability of Legendary nodes yet but we will soon. It did raise her gathering chance on Legendary nodes 2% to 84%.

[Lastelli]

It's not always -50GP. I have had a -150GP bonus.

We made a Weighted Adamantite Sledgehammer for my wife late last night. We haven't checked the effect of it's stats boost on the collectability of Legendary nodes yet but we will soon. It did raise her gathering chance on Legendary nodes 2% to 84%.

Thanks for the info. Did you get an idea of the probability of this proc?

[Silverbane]

Thanks for the info. Did you get an idea of the probability of this proc?

No, I don't go to those nodes for collectibles very often and have not been keeping track.

[TechnoTechie]

Thanks for the info. Did you get an idea of the probability of this proc?

I use the folklore nodes for gathering red scrips because it removes that much more time that I don't have to be doing that nonsense each week. I've had all of the folklore books unlocked since just before 3.07 so it makes sense for me to do that also, I just haven't because of the stats issue.

This changed when I made both the miner and botanist i170 off-hand bringing my gathering to 716 and perception to 702 (the perception is the most important part I feel, as 690/700 or so is where the cap for appraisals is for 1-star)

Since I started doing them two weeks ago, I've generally had a reduced GP action proc once every time I did the node, anywhere from -50 to -200, meaning I'd have at least 100 gp left over out of my 650 GP.