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  1. #11
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    trailmix9999's Avatar
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    Blade Runner
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    I mained MNK from 2.0-2.4 and went to NIN then MCH for 3.0. My main issue is I live in Europe but play on NA servers because raid times. Then I noticed MNK is probably the class least affected by ping which is why I am asking the question. MCH is a very tight class and with my current ping I do not think I can play it optimally. Basically no. I'm not trolling I just want to know if its worth the swap.
    my ping is kinda high as well and i've had zero problems with mnk but nin is just annoying to play, cant wait for the mudra fix in 3.1. ah didnt know mch was affected that much by ping.
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  2. #12
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    ChalupaBatman's Avatar
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    Shu Kuchi
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 60
    Yep, a great MNK is always welcome.

    Best single target DPS, they are usually above Nin by 150+ so that alone makes up for Trick Attack.

    Your only choice will be Goad or Mantra? DRG is a must for world progression but you can down shit early with a MNK/NiN set up also.
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  3. #13
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    Meow9000's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Professor Moon
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Monk is definitely in a really good place right now being the highest single target DPS, and being arguably the best aoe of all 3 melee dps. While slightly lacking in the utility department when compared to DRG and NIN, it is still a class worth bringing for any fight. If you like it, go for it.
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  4. #14
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    Fjaere's Avatar
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    Finn Glesnes
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 70
    I'm always impressed when someone plays a Monk, i've always found it extremely difficult to play properly
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  5. #15
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    Leonus's Avatar
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    Kenrir Amnis
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Meow9000 View Post
    Monk is definitely in a really good place right now being the highest single target DPS, and being arguably the best aoe of all 3 melee dps. While slightly lacking in the utility department when compared to DRG and NIN, it is still a class worth bringing for any fight. If you like it, go for it.
    Nothing to really argue about mnk aoe category, they are definitely highest ST and 99% sure they far out class drg and nin in aoe.
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  6. #16
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    AlphaDragoon's Avatar
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    Renault Cathetel
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisersoke View Post
    it is. monks are highly desired. people like to make out like ninja is required over a monk, but dont take into account that everyone gear is improving weekly and that monk also recently got buffed. monk is higher dps than ninja even with trick attack.
    If that's true Monk DPS is insane, considering TA is supposed to be the reason NIN has to have lower DPS than the other melees according to the most people. I haven't looked too hard into the new rotation since getting my Monk to 60 but damn.
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  7. #17
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    monchkinz's Avatar
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    Enma Hellbringer
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    Sephirot
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon View Post
    If that's true Monk DPS is insane, considering TA is supposed to be the reason NIN has to have lower DPS than the other melees according to the most people. I haven't looked too hard into the new rotation since getting my Monk to 60 but damn.
    Have to remember TA doesnt only affect nin but the rest of the raid group including other dps, tanks and healers (if they decide to dps). So i dont think another 150 dps from monk will be enough to make up for TAs utility.
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  8. #18
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    What monch said. I think with the buff monk got just bring them neck and neck with nin or slightly below them applying TA. It doesn't make it like omg we dint need nin anymore.
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  9. #19
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    AlphaDragoon's Avatar
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    Renault Cathetel
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by monchkinz View Post
    Have to remember TA doesnt only affect nin but the rest of the raid group including other dps, tanks and healers (if they decide to dps). So i dont think another 150 dps from monk will be enough to make up for TAs utility.
    Oh, then I misunderstood. I thought the other guy was saying Monk's DPS was still higher even when you are counting NIN Trick Attack's effect on everyone (not just the NIN), which would have been ridiculous.
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  10. #20
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    Subucnimorning's Avatar
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    Blue Lightt
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by monchkinz View Post
    Have to remember TA doesnt only affect nin but the rest of the raid group including other dps, tanks and healers (if they decide to dps). So i dont think another 150 dps from monk will be enough to make up for TAs utility.
    It's about even comparing DPS gained from TA versus the extra dps from monk, especially the longer a fight goes.
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