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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronyx View Post
    In order to have they own servers there should be a big population which in this case doesnt seems to compare or even get close to the other Servers. EU consist of so many countries in Europe. North America is basically North, Central and South so it cover quite a lot of countries too. Japan covers most of Asia which include China that were added somewhere back around April-May, still Japan had always have one of the highest population in Final XI and XIV because the game was made in Japan and so many Japanese support this game.
    And Australia would cover most, if not all of the Oceanic (along with Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, etc). We don't have the population of numbers Europe or NA sure, but why not scale the server size accordingly? I'm sure most would be happy with 2-3 servers.
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    Last edited by Colorful; 09-19-2015 at 08:00 PM.

  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    0.82 mbps? In NZ the fastest I have ever seen it (living in town) was 0.27mbps.
    yeah not even 1mbps upload very slow upload
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  3. #53
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    In my opinion there isn't enough Australian players to populate whole data center and to make it worth it for SE.
    Just my opinion though.
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  4. #54
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    Larek Darkholme
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    dedicated servers are expensive. See the time it took to a EU server... if AUS has as many players as in EU, then maybe you have a shot down the line
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anera View Post
    wow only 90ms on nbn that bad Im in Sydney still on ADSL2+ ping about 126ms and my download speed only 5mbps up 0.82mbps
    Yeah nbn will not change you MS by much outside of austraila its can be little better then that at times tho some days I get 100/40
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    Last edited by Amaranths; 09-19-2015 at 09:46 PM.

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    Like almost all the games the problem is purely demographic. Australia has way fewer customers than EU and USA. For this game we just took our EU datacenter after 2 years from the ARR launch. The demand was high but still it got so much time for it to happen. For Australia it won't happen any time soon. I suppose the Oceanic players in this game are really minority compared to EU and US. Though I support the idea. Maybe it will happen later if demand is high you never know.
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  7. #57
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    Australia has some terrible Internet laws, highly favoring ISP's over consumers. If they are going to make a data center that caters to Non-JP users in SEA/Oceanic it should be in, New Zealand, Singapore or Taipei.

    New Zealand is technologically head than most other host nations of the region.

    Singapore is a host to countless gaming server operations in the SEA region, they have the industry, the staff and technology to do so.

    Taipei, Taiwan another host country to advanced internet infrastructure, second only to Korea in the East Asia region.

    Either of the 3 is certainly closer than Japan.

    Now the question of domestic laws and resources needed to host large scale gaming servers for an MMORPG:

    In the case of SEA/Oceanic region, there isn't enough incentive for SE to hire staff and operate servers in the region under their very own company umbrella. If such servers are to open up they will most likely be outsourced by a domestic company, much like the fate of the Korean version of the game. If SEA/Oceanic region servers do open up it most likely will require a completely separate account to play on said severs with no chance of having your NA/EU/JP account being transferable.

    In the case of China, China's laws require that an offshore company hire a domestic company to host and run the servers, and said company will also be responsible for censorship and following the finer details of the laws of the land.
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  8. #58
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    As much as I like the idea of Aussie servers added, I doubt SE will do it. We are more like a small thorn in their side over causing some major riot. There aren't enough of us for a whole cluster of servers and we might end up piggybacking on a JP server cluster if we are even lucky.. But we would still probably DF with the Japanese.

    Come on, we had to pay $300 for the collector's edition of Heavensward and the US was about $150 and they won't ship to us at all. Do you really think they'll change their minds?

    I've come to the conclusion that if I'm going to have to pick between bad ping with English speakers or better ping and maybe that person speaks english... I think I'll just stay on the NA server. I dont want to have to guess if that player speaks english and yes, I know about Tonberry as the 'unofficial Aussie/NZ' server.
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  9. #59
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    Rashi Shadowblade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avraym View Post
    Does the FFXIV team plan to do the same and make a server to reduce ping from a constant 300+ to a playable 30-40?
    Let me preface this by saying that I feel by no means that players shouldn't be allowed to do whatever they can to get the best experience possible out of their games, and that if the dev team is able to provide a data center that provides a better connection to players of different regions, then I have nothing against them doing so.....

    Now then, I'd like to say that I am sick and tired of people acting like 200-300ms ping is gamebreaking and makes it impossible to enjoy the game or preform well. Due to the location I live at within the US, it is impossible for me to get standard internet where I live, short of paying an internet provider several thousand dollars to run lines out to where I live. This leaves me with the only option for internet being satellite based. With the ISP I use, I get approximately 12-20mbs download speed and 5mbs upload speed, with slow down around midnight due to a free data period they have that starts then. Due to the nature of satellite internet, it is impossible for me to get ping at less than 650ms.....

    Despite this ping level that more than doubles what most people such as the OP consider to be "unplayable", I have no problem running any content in the game that I have attempted thus far, including EX Primals and A1-4. As a MCH I maintain higher single target DPS than most of the random DRGs, MNKs, and NINs I find in the DF. Furthermore, on any run that I am familiar with, I take less damage most other players I find. If anything, the slight delay I experience has prompted me to better learn the mechanics and patterns of bosses so that I can compensate for them to avoid taking damage or get the most out of my rotation. I can understand that some people may be unable to compensate for it, and that some people have enough trouble with basic mechanics and dodging as is. The point I'm trying to make however is that the game is far from unplayable with such minuscule lag as 300ms. As someone who has played the game without it, (briefly visiting family and using their non-satellite internet), and who constantly plays with far worse, I get particularly annoyed about all the people who complain that the game isn't playable or is that much harder if you have a minute amount of consistent lag.....

    By that logic, I must clearly be the best player in the game if I can participate and contribute as much as any other player while still dealing with a high ping rate.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Strangely enough, if you assume the OP is from a parallel universe, it all makes sense.
    ...
    That or they are just spouting gibberish.

  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer3427 View Post

    Now then, I'd like to say that I am sick and tired of people acting like 200-300ms ping is gamebreaking and makes it impossible to enjoy the game or preform well.

    By that logic, I must clearly be the best player in the game if I can participate and contribute as much as any other player while still dealing with a high ping rate.....
    200-300 ping not gamebreaking? You try dodge Titan's attack 7-10 seconds ahead of time behind despite moving right on time. You have to know the fight 100% and predict their attacks in order to dodge AOEs at 250+ ping. It's impossible to get through some content without being carried with that time delay. Raids are off limits for me unless I want to burden others.

    Yes it's my choice to play on a NA server but 200-300 ping is not a valid connection speed to attempt some parts of the game.

    Playing under limited restrictions does make you a better player once you have those limitations off if you can manage to progress.
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    Last edited by MihaelB; 09-21-2015 at 09:21 AM. Reason: Past text limit
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