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    Quote Originally Posted by Avraym View Post
    Does the FFXIV team plan to do the same and make a server to reduce ping from a constant 300+ to a playable 30-40?
    Let me preface this by saying that I feel by no means that players shouldn't be allowed to do whatever they can to get the best experience possible out of their games, and that if the dev team is able to provide a data center that provides a better connection to players of different regions, then I have nothing against them doing so.....

    Now then, I'd like to say that I am sick and tired of people acting like 200-300ms ping is gamebreaking and makes it impossible to enjoy the game or preform well. Due to the location I live at within the US, it is impossible for me to get standard internet where I live, short of paying an internet provider several thousand dollars to run lines out to where I live. This leaves me with the only option for internet being satellite based. With the ISP I use, I get approximately 12-20mbs download speed and 5mbs upload speed, with slow down around midnight due to a free data period they have that starts then. Due to the nature of satellite internet, it is impossible for me to get ping at less than 650ms.....

    Despite this ping level that more than doubles what most people such as the OP consider to be "unplayable", I have no problem running any content in the game that I have attempted thus far, including EX Primals and A1-4. As a MCH I maintain higher single target DPS than most of the random DRGs, MNKs, and NINs I find in the DF. Furthermore, on any run that I am familiar with, I take less damage most other players I find. If anything, the slight delay I experience has prompted me to better learn the mechanics and patterns of bosses so that I can compensate for them to avoid taking damage or get the most out of my rotation. I can understand that some people may be unable to compensate for it, and that some people have enough trouble with basic mechanics and dodging as is. The point I'm trying to make however is that the game is far from unplayable with such minuscule lag as 300ms. As someone who has played the game without it, (briefly visiting family and using their non-satellite internet), and who constantly plays with far worse, I get particularly annoyed about all the people who complain that the game isn't playable or is that much harder if you have a minute amount of consistent lag.....

    By that logic, I must clearly be the best player in the game if I can participate and contribute as much as any other player while still dealing with a high ping rate.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Strangely enough, if you assume the OP is from a parallel universe, it all makes sense.
    ...
    That or they are just spouting gibberish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer3427 View Post

    Now then, I'd like to say that I am sick and tired of people acting like 200-300ms ping is gamebreaking and makes it impossible to enjoy the game or preform well.

    By that logic, I must clearly be the best player in the game if I can participate and contribute as much as any other player while still dealing with a high ping rate.....
    200-300 ping not gamebreaking? You try dodge Titan's attack 7-10 seconds ahead of time behind despite moving right on time. You have to know the fight 100% and predict their attacks in order to dodge AOEs at 250+ ping. It's impossible to get through some content without being carried with that time delay. Raids are off limits for me unless I want to burden others.

    Yes it's my choice to play on a NA server but 200-300 ping is not a valid connection speed to attempt some parts of the game.

    Playing under limited restrictions does make you a better player once you have those limitations off if you can manage to progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MihaelB View Post
    200-300 ping not gamebreaking? You try dodge Titan's attack 7-10 seconds ahead of time behind despite moving right on time. You have to know the fight 100% and predict their attacks in order to dodge AOEs at 250+ ping. It's impossible to get through some content without being carried with that time delay. Raids are off limits for me unless I want to burden others.

    Yes it's my choice to play on a NA server but 200-300 ping is not a valid connection speed to attempt some parts of the game.

    Playing under limited restrictions does make you a better player once you have those limitations off if you can manage to progress.
    And I can guarantee that it is in fact doable even when making first attempts, and not knowing the fight 100%. Titan is the one trial I've consistently had trouble with, but even then if I'm paying enough attention I can easily get through it without taking any damage except from the unavoidable AoEs, and without being "carried" by other players. It's doubly worth mentioning that I played a caster class full time prior to HW, and still frequently play as a SCH, so it's not a matter of just staying moving to avoid attacks. There are some attacks in the game that do have an incredibly small dodge window even without high ping, but most I have plenty of time to avoid after they land under me even with my ping. Particularly of note are the AoEs in A4 that spawn under players at random. You absolutely can dodge AoEs such as these without knowing the fight beforehand if you have high ping.....

    EDIT: I'm well aware that I'm not going to be making any friends here, but I'm speaking my mind on the matter because as someone who has to play with worse conditions, I feel insulted when others say that they "can't" participate in certain content because of low lag.....
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    Last edited by Gamer3427; 09-21-2015 at 09:36 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Strangely enough, if you assume the OP is from a parallel universe, it all makes sense.
    ...
    That or they are just spouting gibberish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MihaelB View Post
    Yes it's my choice to play on a NA server but 200-300 ping is not a valid connection speed to attempt some parts of the game.
    There you have it.
    You made a choice to play in a server that has worse latency.
    You can have a fully furnished house in Tonberry as well if that's what's stopping you from moving, but you won't have better latency if you don't move.

    Try making an alt in Tonberry to check things out first if you're worried there isn't enough english speaking community there.
    Even if SE makes an official OCE server I have doubts I'll move there either, the DF here kicks ass xD
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    Last edited by hagare; 09-21-2015 at 11:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    There you have it.
    You made a choice to play in a server that has worse latency.
    You can have a fully furnished house in Tonberry as well if that's what's stopping you from moving, but you won't have better latency if you don't move.

    Try making an alt in Tonberry to check things out first if you're worried there isn't enough english speaking community there.
    Even if SE makes an official OCE server I have doubts I'll move there either, the DF here kicks ass xD
    And what of those who can't get on tonberry because it's closed seemingly almost 24/7

    I even tried around maintenance and no dice
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    Last edited by OJ191; 09-23-2015 at 04:05 AM.