Is Final Fantasy XIV the champion of immersion? Or is it easily usurped?

[Rhomagus]

and that's different from posting non stop aruging against multiple people your point of view over and over and over and over again how?

I think it was a good and fair topic

Because my posts are thorough, stay on topic, and don't create massive threads. You think this is easy? You really think I'm manufacturing opinion here? No, not at all. I give people thorough responses because they took the time to make a thread and deserve to at least have the feeling like they've properly communicated their position. I offer up my analysis on every word written in their post and present exactly what I think and feel.

There's very little room for interpretation. It's the best way to get at the truth.

I don't argue just for the sake of arguing. I argue because I see a lapse of logic and try to correct it. I also argue to become enlightened and educated. Arguing in these threads is what birthed the inspiration for the "Future Airship Content Ideas" thread. I don't make threads often because I'm not interested in blasting my opinion. I am interested in providing suggestions for actual game content though.

[Rhomagus]

The game has no depth and you can barely interact with the world at all. What immersion are you talking about...

See how subjective immersion is?

Add content, not timesinks.

[Rhomagus]

I don't think XIV had any new games to worry about immersion, most of the stuff coming out right now is pretty much in the same vien of WoW, not really what I'd call immersive.

Although XIV isn't really doing much to help itself currently, let's hope that changes in the near future. Less instant airships, more substantial airship rides please. You can trust I'll be the guy telling people to STFU when they tell me to ride the instant airship so they can "Move out"

I'll be enjoying the clouds sirs~

You and me both.

[Gramul]

Rhomagus, I really appreciate your insight, but I think it would be best if you just edited your posts instead of responding to each person with an individual response.

Less thread clutter.

[weeble]

You and me both.

lmao i cringed in ffxi when someone ran instead of taking a chocobo when rest of party is on one an still waiting for him ...it's 1-5k!!... lol if anyone does this in a group i think i'd replace them without even thinking. sorry to say, but it is the truth but least the game is going in direction where we can all have our thing. theres always a time and place to use things, making a stand to se with the players waiting for u isn't just lmao.

[Rhomagus]

Rhomagus, I really appreciate your insight, but I think it would be best if you just edited your posts instead of responding to each person with an individual response.

Less thread clutter.

Everyone has a different view of how they look at things. Everyone has their individual opinion. I will not spoiler my quote text if I've never responded to that person before. Once we have a dialogue initiated, I'll begin to put my quoted text and revisions into a spoiler tag.

Other posts I agree with and am compelled to do more than press the like button.

Other posts I disagree with but the point is exactly the same as what's already been written.

I edit my OP's because the nature of my OP's are meant to be an ever changing work in progress. I don't post opinion polls.

I don't edit old comments once the thread has gained a page. It's disingenuous to add content after a post has been made and expect people to know that I've made an edit in the post. As soon as someone has responded to the post I generally do not edit it but I do a lot of revisions prior to and up to that moment.

The format will stay the same.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

[Gramul]

Everyone has a different view of how they look at things. Everyone has their individual opinion. I will not spoiler my quote text if I've never responded to that person before. Once we have a dialogue initiated, I'll begin to put my quoted text and revisions into a spoiler tag.

Other posts I agree with and am compelled to do more than press the like button.

Other posts I disagree with but the point is exactly the same as what's already been written.

I edit my OP's because the nature of my OP's are meant to be an ever changing work in progress. I don't post opinion polls.

I don't edit old comments once the thread has gained a page. It's disingenuous to add content after a post has been made and expect people to know that I've made an edit in the post. As soon as someone has responded to the post I generally do not edit it but I do a lot of revisions prior to and up to that moment.

The format will stay the same.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Um...okay then.

[Azurymber]

Um...okay then.

did he just render you speechless.....

[viion]

SW TOR is going to kill it immersion-wise. Have you seen the massive guilds already being formed just in anticipation of it? People get really into the Star Wars universe partly because its so iconic. and with over 400,000 pre-orders and over 1.4 mil beta sign ups its pretty well guarenteed to be a success. Plus those that have played it so far seem to like it and it will be launched before christmas now.

I just released a massive Lore guide for this game and have had like only 3 people in an entire day contributee. One post was to something i knew about, one was something that turned out to be wrong (i think) and the other was just a small thing (although -very- helpful).
People in this game don't seem to care much about the world they play in.

XIV went through an Alpha and beta with lots of people, even with all the restrictions it still gained about 50-60k active players. It even sold 600k boxes of which most came with a buddy key, thats almost 1million Playable CD keys out there.

And whats XIV now? A hurtful fall that lead to its very few thousand players.

Numbers dont mean a single thing these days when even a Final Fantasy game which has a huge fan base and is just as iconic as SW can lose half a million of its audience within the first month.

SW will either suceed in a Rift state or fail in an XIV state depending on the exact same thing both those games had or did not have: First impressions content.

[Gramul]

did he just render you speechless.....

I wasn't expecting such a thorough rebuttal for a simple suggestion.
If he's that committed to it, then hell, let him have it.