Dear Yoshi P: What is your vision?

[Jynx]

His general game philosiphy from what we can discern from his posts seems very lofty. I'm of the opinion that especially in the MMO world you can't catter to everyone. Someones going to get burned in the end.

If he can pull it off great, I just hope some of the content for the people who don't like instances crops up...eventually.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

His general game philosiphy from what we can discern from his posts seems very lofty. I'm of the opinion that especially in the MMO world you can't catter to everyone. Someones going to get burned in the end.

If he can pull it off great, I just hope some of the content for the people who don't like instances crops up...eventually.

Yeah he won't be able to make everyone happy, Azurymber and User203948203478 proves that. But I think he'll churn out some content that most people will enjoy. Public dungeon is coming in 1.19 that's not instanced, you still have leves that's semi-instanced (of course Yoshi didn't make those) and more NMs are coming.

[Azurymber]

Yeah he won't be able to make everyone happy, Azurymber and User203948203478 proves that. But I think he'll churn out some content that most people will enjoy. Public dungeon is coming in 1.19 that's not instanced, you still have leves that's semi-instanced (of course Yoshi didn't make those) and more NMs are coming.

I've posted many times that I am quite happy.
I'm not happy with a community that doesn't contribute things of value. I have a solo guide that explains in detail something that every person on this board told me was impossible.
I have a lore guide that no one is contributing too.

I want other people to enjoy this game, hence why i waste hours of my time writing up guides that let people solo, organize the games lore, tell people how to make gil and tell people cool things to see and where to explore.

The fact the wiki's are dead and I can't get moderate amount of content support on these boards shows that most people are disinterested.

I want people to be interested and have an incentive to play.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

I've posted many times that I am quite happy.
I'm not happy with a community that doesn't contribute things of value. I have a solo guide that explains in detail something that every person on this board told me was impossible.
I have a lore guide that no one is contributing too.

I want other people to enjoy this game, hence why i waste hours of my time writing up guides that let people solo, organize the games lore, tell people how to make gil and tell people cool things to see and where to explore.

The fact the wiki's are dead and I can't get moderate amount of content support on these boards shows that most people are disinterested.

I want people to be interested and have an incentive to play.

Haven't you thought that people just don't want to read your lore guide or your solo guide? I prefer to find out things on my own, also I rather read about the lore in the game not on the forums. Thanks for your hard work, but I think most people have no use for it or rather do things on their own and that's not the game's fault.

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If no one is contributing it means very few people care about the game.
If new players at relaunch join a game where theres no wiki, they will assume its horrible and quit
even free MMOs have updated wikis.

None of the databases managed to pull together at launch, so i see no reason why they would suddenly pull together at relaunch unless a community of people who -really- want there to be a good future for the game forms. And right now that's seriously lacking.

IMO MMOs shouldn't need a wiki, especially a recently released one. You should be able to find whatever you looking for in the game with ease. I think they should only have a wiki for items because people like to compare weapon stats.

[weeble]

Haven't you thought that people just don't want to read your lore guide or your solo guide? I prefer to find out things on my own, also I rather read about the lore in the game not on the forums. Thanks for your hard work, but I think most people have no use for it or rather do things on their own and that's not the game's fault.

not seen the posts or know why either, i will chalk it up to the game and what hedge said.

but i just wanted to throw my opinion on this lol, i wish there was a way to remove the internet from mmo's, i know right a online game with people but no way of reading guides and crap. can u imagine everyone having to figure out how to do things themselves or players that figure them out having to acually show people in game they want to show only. i just think it would make mmo's more fun without. ffxi ...u had to read the how to for missions, if u didn't then u didn't know what to expect, and then u make a party to go do it ..u had to tell em what to do. if u tell em lets just figure it out in if they don't go run right away they will in a try or 2. is why i love a fresh new game, new content that hasn't even been beat like the way we at now. trying batral b4 the vids and stuff cause there were no vids.

[Azurymber]

Haven't you thought that people just don't want to read your lore guide or your solo guide? I prefer to find out things on my own, also I rather read about the lore in the game not on the forums. Thanks for your hard work, but I think most people have no use for it or rather do things on their own and that's not the game's fault.

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IMO MMOs shouldn't need a wiki, especially a recently released one. You should be able to find whatever you looking for in the game with ease. I think they should only have a wiki for items because people like to compare weapon stats.

I asked how to solo a few weeks before i made the solo guide, everyone said its impossible and you have to group.

So i gave people more choices. and ive gotten well over 100 people saying thank you and that it helped. So i know people use that one.

the lore one is based 95% on character creation + normal npc dialogue at the moment. Remembering all the little facts about the world is unrealistic, so its useful to have a guide to reference. Im assuming people who like finding things out for themselves have talked to most of the normal npcs by now in which case there are almost no spoilers in the guide. People who haven't probably don't care much about lore.

FFXI also had a lore website which was quite popular and used a lot. (Something this game really should have)

And while you may like playing without using guides or wiki's the fact that every MMO out there has a detailed wiki (cept this one) would suggest the average player doesn't share your attitude.

edit: oh and the solo guide i posted when the game came out ended up with well over 45,000 views.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

And while you may like playing without using guides or wiki's the fact that every MMO out there has a detailed wiki (cept this one) would suggest the average player doesn't share your attitude.

I agree, like everyone doesn't want to read your solo or lore guides. Also I don't care if an MMO has a detailed wiki, I'm just saying a MMO shouldn't need one. I'll played Aion without needing a wiki and I'm sure I could play WoW without a wiki because I could most likely find everything I needed in the game. If other people want to use wikis that's fine, but I rather not have to search to multiple pages trying to find something while playing a game.

[Azurymber]

I agree, like everyone doesn't want to read your solo or lore guides. Also I don't care if an MMO has a detailed wiki, I'm just saying a MMO shouldn't need one. I'll played Aion without needing a wiki and I'm sure I could play WoW without a wiki because I could most likely find everything I needed in the game. If other people want to use wikis that's fine, but I rather not have to search to multiple pages trying to find something while playing a game.

thats understandable but a lot of players will get turned off this game if it doesn't have one.

And to be honest after speaking with every npc in the game, the lore is really random and all over the place with some things being mentioned only once in a quest. A lore guide would at least help some people connect to the game and be excited for future game-lore stuff.