Playing FFXIV as a Au Ra. ( playing as if I was a new player) ( A little bit annoyed)

[NekoGenesis]

People let me watch everything when i first started, and i've continue to pay it forward since. Whenever I run that place for any reason, when anyone makes the request to watch the cutscenes, i immediately give them the go-ahead before anyone can say otherwise. And if people have a problem with it, i tell them where they can shove it.

It's really just a few extra minutes, no huge deal for the rest of the group.

The people who want to watch it are also usually cool with the rest of the group taking on the bosses while they watch.

I was lucky to have a bunch of really friendly and patient people when I did Prae and CM for the first time. They took the time to let me watch cutscenes and just chatted to each other while waiting for me and the other 2 newbies to catch up to fight each boss, so I got to experience the bosses and cutscenes as they were intended to be enjoyed. I therefore extend the same courtesy to people who are new and doing CM/Prae and I will always throw in my vote to wait for them.

This is also the only instance where I abuse my tank privilege of being the person who sets the pace of the raid which, combined the fact that I don't really care if I get kicked if the majority of the group want to speed-run (and I'm perfectly ok with that), means that most of the times when newbies come into Prae/CM and politely request if the group can slow down so they can watch cutscenes and fight bosses as intended, I can and will deliberately slow the group down so they can catch up (however, if at least 4 other people including my co-tank and at least one of the healers chooses to go ahead, there isn't really much you can do about it and I'll just go along with them to beat up the bosses while the sprouts watch the cutscenes, which as Averax said, they're perfectly content with).

Is it selfish of me to try and hold the group back for new people? Yes, it most likely is, but if their alternative is to have the story chucked out the window or wait for hours for a PF to fill then I'll be selfish, just this once, to help them.

[Shurrikhan]

Hopefully the "cutscene" elements prior to the fight will eventually be integrated more smoothly and interestingly into the fight itself with future MSQ dungeons? Other than that, I really can only hope that roulettes centered on MSQ content are synced to near-minimum ilvl and their rewards buffed hugely. That way we all come in expecting it to take nearly its original time and are duly rewarded.

[Ashkendor]

Thank you Ashkendor.

Before we got our fourth for our static, I would put up this in duty finder all the time. We already had our tank and healer roles filled, just needed anyone to join and we were set. Not a single time did anyone ever join. I even spent a good hour or two waiting as well. I would even pm someone standing right next to the dungeon entrance, obviously new and going in for the first time like us, and they would ignore me or not know how to reply. I think new players are too scared or just don't know enough to make these tools work for them.

And I can say this with confidence, the attitude of this thread is what makes us not want to play with others, as it is prevalent every time we look into doing this stuff.

Probably, yeah. I know when I was new, I was scared half to death of the Duty Finder after some bad experiences. I never even thought of using PF for anything until I was doing my first relic and DF kept failing horrendously at Titan HM.

I don't have a problem with new people at all. I like seeing them. I do have a problem with people that completely freak out when a problem is addressed (facepulling dps, tanks that can't hold hate, arcanists that spam heal, etc), even when it's addressed politely.

[Belhaven]

When I was young, a long long time ago, I used to heavily be in the punk scene. We had a phrase, "Support your scene". It meant to keep what you love alive, you have to pay for the shows, buy the albums that sounded like it was recorded in a burger king bathroom, and when new people came and shown interest in the thing you love, you show them the ropes and help them integrate. Now this being the punk scene, these things were done with a but more "enthusiasm", but I always liked that philosophy and uphold it in all my interests.

That being said, I know from this experience who actually loves this game and who is just here because they have nothing better to do. I see people who go out of their way to make sure everyone loves it as much as they do. I like these people. These are the people who are going to keep this game alive. These are the people who are going to keep new blood from jumping ship when they run into the people who just want to tear it down.

This is not such an incredible game where its immune to failure. No game is. My first MMO was Earth and Beyond, and I thought it was amazing. Ya, that didn't go well. So in reply to those who are trying to force new players out of content, just remember, support your scene.

[hobostew]

I've always found it really weird that people make such a big fuss about these two dungeons since most of the bosses are basically tank and spank fights. Personally my advice to new people is to just watch the cutscenes. You're not missing anything remotely interesting.

[Kathyz]

I use to wait the news one before the expansion as a tank, but after a while they kick me too for that xD.

People dont want to wait and you cant force them to wait, my first time they wait me only because i was a healer and the other healer was first timer too.

[AsteriaStarfall]

The only thing SE could do to help alleviate this problem, is that when a cutscene plays, that awesome circle barrier goes up around everyone. Giving those that want to watch a cutscene the chance to do just that, and not just the circle at the start of the instance.

[Amberyl]

How are these posts still a thing? Which year is it again?

As I'm sure other people have said - grab a friend, undersize and unsync them. I dualboxed both so a new referral could watch the lot. It only took longer than usual because he was watching the cutscenes. You can basically Holy-spam the entire run and never come close to death.

Nero fight tip: stay at the door, back against the corner, heal with buff'ed Regen and the AoE bubble, since it's insta-cast.

[Amberyl]

The only thing SE could do to help alleviate this problem, is that when a cutscene plays, that awesome circle barrier goes up around everyone. Giving those that want to watch a cutscene the chance to do just that, and not just the circle at the start of the instance.

And you'll never get a group for those instances again.

[Azazua_azura]

Hi hi everyone this is my first

I can see where people are coming from, that they want to just get stuff done and over with asap to get their seals/tomes/exp/gil. As someone who beat the ARR story roughly 3 times, I can understand the "not wait" side.

The thing is, it just as rude to press on with out everyone in the party with you. This is team conent and should be treated as such. Saying "tough" "too bad" "get used to it" "watch it in the inn" is just as rude. At the start people should agree on the approach and do the agreement. Just rushing off ahead under the assumption of a speed run goes against the idea of this being a team effort.
And as someone who plans on doing the story a 4th time this is something i'm gonna have to go through.

And the OP is right, everyone has stuff they want to do. Not everyone will drop everything to help another player. More so if they are new to said free company, as no one really knows them and people help friends first. As for pf, it is very rare people will join any for this conent, you tend to wait over 1 hr at best, over 3 hrs at worst.

TLDR: Please stop assuming your side is the majority in the party, communicate at the start and do the agree'ed approach. Most importent is to have fun.