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  1. #11
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    Story is overrated in this game, making people wait and delaying runs just so you can watch glorified youtube videos is pretty selfish.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kedo View Post
    Story is overrated in this game, making people wait and delaying runs just so you can watch glorified youtube videos is pretty selfish.
    Circular logic.

    - Making people wait is selfish

    - Rushing ahead so you can get your outdated gear and making the 1 or 2 people that wants to actually watch the story for the first time is selfish.

    We are all Selfish. But who is the person that actually wants to see the story? I do and many other new players.

    When the game was fresh most people watched it on the spot, but now your telling the new players to bug off? Not only selfish but rude.
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    Last edited by Starlord; 09-19-2015 at 01:59 AM.

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Circular logic.

    - Making people wait is selfish

    - Rushing ahead so you can get your outdated gear and making the 1 or 2 people that wants to actually watch the story for the first time is selfish.

    We are all Selfish. But who is the person that actually wants to see the story? I do and many other new players.

    When the game was fresh most people watched it on the spot, but now your telling the new players to bug off? Not only selfish but rude.
    1. You're not new.
    2. If the majority consensus is speed run, then the 1 person wanting to watch the youtube videos is the selfish one.
    3. Nothing is stopping you from just standing around and watching the CS if that's all you want to do, but don't be surprised if you get a kick for not contributing.
    4. If you don't want to get kicked because of that, we have the Inn so you can watch your youtube videos.
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  4. #14
    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Dererk Titan
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    I have probably only done main story roulette maybe 10 times at most this year. I highly doubt most even bother with it.

    So you want to force the ones who do bother quing up for it to be forced to wait? >.>

    That doesn't fix a problem it makes it 10 times worse.

    I wanted to see every cs in them first run too sure. But was told to skip I hated it. But guess what.

    I got over it. Because when I started running them for tomes I saw how annoying it was.
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    Last edited by Dererk; 09-19-2015 at 02:09 AM.

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kedo View Post
    1. You're not new.
    2. If the majority consensus is speed run, then the 1 person wanting to watch the youtube videos is the selfish one.
    3. Nothing is stopping you from just standing around and watching the CS if that's all you want to do, but don't be surprised if you get a kick for not contributing.
    4. If you don't want to get kicked because of that, we have the Inn so you can watch your youtube videos.
    1) Your right I am not new, I said I was playing as if I was a new player to get an idea on what it's like for them.

    2) Ad Populum, So because most people are speed running makes it okay to dis/kick a new player? *rolls eyes*

    3) Nothing is stopping me. However I am a different person that you, I get a better gaming/story experience for the first time when I do everything as intended.


    4) This is the "Duty Finder" and a "Main Scenario" Tab at that. I am pretty sure before people click the "join" tab. that they are aware that there might be new people that are doing this for the first time. If you don't want to take that chance there is plenty of ways to get your Poetics. Instead? You "potentially" burden the new players.
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  6. #16
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    OP, one of 3 things is going to happen. SE can make the CSs unskippable but then this would lead to new people getting kicked or 85% of the player base (base that does MS Roullete anyways) to not do MS Roulette or people will speed click the cutscenes and still leave people behind. PF/FC party is the best option to fully experience the Dungeon and Story. The third option is to watch the Cutscenes while the impatience will go on ahead to leave the new people behind. The 4th and super secret option is to not care about the Cutscenes til after the dungeon is over (the option I chose for Coil because I just wanted it done...) As stated earlier, SE remedy this by making the Cutscenes at the beginning and ending of Dungeons/Trials/Raids.

    Also, yeah. People have the right to complain. Just like mods have the right to lock threads and the Dev Team has the right to say, "No, we will not address the issue because we feel issue has been addressed."
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    Last edited by FallenArisen0990; 09-19-2015 at 02:15 AM.

  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    OP, one of 3 things is going to happen. SE can make the CSs unskippable but then this would lead to new people getting kicked or 85% of the player base (base that does MS Roullete anyways) to not do MS Roulette or people will speed click the cutscenes and still leave people behind. PF/FC party is the best option to fully experience the Dungeon and Story. The third option is to watch the Cutscenes while the impatience will go on ahead to leave the new people behind. The 4th and super secret option is to not care about the Cutscenes til after the dungeon is over (the option I chose for Coil because I just wanted it done...) As stated earlier, SE remedy this by making the Cutscenes at the beginning and ending of Dungeons/Trials/Raids.
    I know they already fixed the issue in there future content. but that doesn't change the fact the new players have to deal this first, before getting to the "fixed" version of it.

    Anyways nothing will change, I just wanted to voice my opinion on it is all.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    I have probably only done main story roulette maybe 10 times at most this year. I highly doubt most even bother with it.

    So you want to force the ones who do bother quing up for it to be forced to wait? >.>

    That doesn't fix a problem it makes it 10 times worse.

    I wanted to see every cs in them first run too sure. But was told to skip I hated it. But guess what.

    I got over it. Because when I started running them for tomes I saw how annoying it was.
    I am sure people will get over it ( or potentially quit over it), that doesn't make the problem go away. All I am saying is I feel what the new players go through, quite sad.

    And again, all I am doing is voicing my opinion.
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  9. #19
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    They're not going to do more.

    Force people to watch an hour of cutscenes, you'll next be complaining no one queues, you can't get groups.
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  11. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    They're not going to do more.

    Force people to watch an hour of cutscenes, you'll next be complaining no one queues, you can't get groups.
    At least I know when it does que up that I'll have like minded people to do the story along with me /sigh. It is a problem for "both" sides, a problem that may never see a solution to in the DF. That doesn't mean I should sit back and just let it happen. /shrug
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