Playing FFXIV as a Au Ra. ( playing as if I was a new player) ( A little bit annoyed)

[Kedo]

Circular logic.

- Making people wait is selfish

- Rushing ahead so you can get your outdated gear and making the 1 or 2 people that wants to actually watch the story for the first time is selfish.

We are all Selfish. But who is the person that actually wants to see the story? I do and many other new players.

When the game was fresh most people watched it on the spot, but now your telling the new players to bug off? Not only selfish but rude.

1. You're not new.
2. If the majority consensus is speed run, then the 1 person wanting to watch the youtube videos is the selfish one.
3. Nothing is stopping you from just standing around and watching the CS if that's all you want to do, but don't be surprised if you get a kick for not contributing.
4. If you don't want to get kicked because of that, we have the Inn so you can watch your youtube videos.

[Starlord]

1. You're not new.
2. If the majority consensus is speed run, then the 1 person wanting to watch the youtube videos is the selfish one.
3. Nothing is stopping you from just standing around and watching the CS if that's all you want to do, but don't be surprised if you get a kick for not contributing.
4. If you don't want to get kicked because of that, we have the Inn so you can watch your youtube videos.

1) Your right I am not new, I said I was playing as if I was a new player to get an idea on what it's like for them.

2) Ad Populum, So because most people are speed running makes it okay to dis/kick a new player? *rolls eyes*

3) Nothing is stopping me. However I am a different person that you, I get a better gaming/story experience for the first time when I do everything as intended.


4) This is the "Duty Finder" and a "Main Scenario" Tab at that. I am pretty sure before people click the "join" tab. that they are aware that there might be new people that are doing this for the first time. If you don't want to take that chance there is plenty of ways to get your Poetics. Instead? You "potentially" burden the new players.

[CosmicKirby]

2) Ad Populum, So because most people are speed running makes it okay to dis/kick a new player? *rolls eyes*

Just popping in for this because it bothered me.

This is not an Ad Populum argument.
Ad Populum asserts ideas have merit simply because many people believe in the idea. "Of course James Cameron's Avatar is an amazing! Look how high it grossed world-wide!"
The person you're arguing with never suggested that they want to skip cutscenes because everyone does, rather they stated that, if ONE person doesn't want to skip the cutscenes and speed run, but the rest of the group does then that individual should concede and skip the cutscenes. This would be Majority rule and a form of Democracy, not an appeal to a popular idea.

[Kedo]

Just popping in for this because it bothered me.

This is not an Ad Populum argument.
Ad Populum asserts ideas have merit simply because many people believe in the idea. "Of course I should jump off of a bridge, everyone is doing it!"
The person you're arguing with never suggested that they want to skip cutscenes because everyone does, rather they stated that, if ONE person doesn't want to skip the cutscenes and speed run, but the rest of the group does then that individual should concede and skip the cutscenes. This would be Majority rule and a form of Democracy, not an appeal to a popular idea.

That was me ^^, and the reason why I didn't bother to respond, he didn't know what Ad Populum was.