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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    One or the other is fine, But PLEASE, BY THE GODS!!! Never both at the same time again. Please!! /Grovel
    I feel your guys' pain. I kid you not, I did no less than 70 runs on 2 of my zodiac dungeons. more than 50 on 3 others, and the rest were all around 10-15. There are some dungeons in this game that I NEVER want to see again thanksto the old relic quest. RNG like that should never be put into the game unless there's some kind of fail safe... which gives me an idea for the wishlist.

    Any RNG that is put into the relic quests must be either capped (ie: if you don't get your drop by a specific number, lets say 100, runs, than they just give it to you), or has a scaling % of success with each consecutive run (ie: each run you do increases your odds of getting your drop.). Both of these would probably only work for dungeons, but it would help... a lot. Some of us are just unlucky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    A Sage's Staff/Staff of the Magi (cane, because BLM uses Staffs in this game IDK why) based on FFXII's design for my WHM is all I want.
    That's pretty nifty looking. Was this a relic weapon (or some kind of equivalent) in FFXI? I don't know much about that game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    After I spent that much time and coin on that weapon I REALLY do expect it's stats to carry over. Which I'm willing to bet is what the "Bonus" is since it's check point to get the bonus is the Novus Phase.
    I really hope so too, however, I wonder how likely it would be if the new relic is completely new. They did seem pretty adamant that our original relics were as strong as they could get, and would not be required for the new ones. So, I'm not sure how they would apply our previous stats to our new weapons, or how that would work for players who didn't do the original relics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    I really hope so too, however, I wonder how likely it would be if the new relic is completely new. They did seem pretty adamant that our original relics were as strong as they could get, and would not be required for the new ones. So, I'm not sure how they would apply our previous stats to our new weapons, or how that would work for players who didn't do the original relics.
    Those are my reservations as well.

    Seems we'll have to wait for the live streem and transcript for any info about it or 3.1 in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    And, 2. an expansion to the relic lore. I'm sure this one is very far fetched, but I want it all the same. We know that these weapons were used by some special heroes back in the day, but we don't know too much about them. Given the connection to the Zodiac signs, I'm seeing a lot of references to Final Fantasy Tactics, which, of course, brings to mind the Lucavi. I would very much like it if the new relic quests had something to do with the Zodiac Braves and the Lucavi. If they could even put a fight against a Lucavi that would be awesome. Hell, that bald blacksmith made us fight a hydra, why not throw in specific trials related to the Zodiac Braves? I would love to see the Zodiac Brave Trials hit FFXIV.
    Man i just love FFT... the story and the setting was just awesome. I would die for getting deeper in that Zodiac Brave-Story from FFXIV. Im really looking forward to the new Questline though...
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    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Those are my reservations as well.

    Seems we'll have to wait for the live streem and transcript for any info about it or 3.1 in general.
    My greatest fear is that they were lying about it and are just going to screw us all over. However, if they do any quest steps that are similar to light farming from novus/zodiac stage, I could see how they might be able to offer some compensation there. Maybe they would offer bonuses in farm values to people who have a zeta, that kind of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    Man i just love FFT... the story and the setting was just awesome. I would die for getting deeper in that Zodiac Brave-Story from FFXIV. Im really looking forward to the new Questline though...
    Yes, yes, and more YES!

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who would be interested in this. Tactics was a fantastic game. The story and lore were truly amazing. FFXIV has a lot of references to Tactics and Ivalice, so I was kind of hoping there were going to do more references in the Atma step of the Relic with the book challenges (given that a big part of the plot/conspiracy in Tactics was from a certain book containing some interesting history). Especially because there are some direct ties from the zodiac signs to the Gods/ Ascions in this game. I was waiting to find out some nefarious details about the original owners of the zodiac weapons. I would love for them to expand on it. Sadly, I was disappointed.

    I'm really hoping they take advantage of some more of these existing references (as long as they don't cock it up like they did with Clan Centurio... so disappointing...).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    That's pretty nifty looking. Was this a relic weapon (or some kind of equivalent) in FFXI? I don't know much about that game.
    Nope, although being the most powerful staff on the game and a rare steal from a Holy Elemental mob, it was just an ordinary staff. FFXII didn't have any relics to be honest.
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    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Nope, although being the most powerful staff on the game and a rare steal from a Holy Elemental mob, it was just an ordinary staff. FFXII didn't have any relics to be honest.
    The idea of stealing a rare and useful item from a monster is an alien concept in this game lol. That kind of thing seems to have been redirected to crafters and gathers, rather than actual combat classes... which is a shame.

    They should increase the variety of ways to attain high level equipment other than Extreme Trials and Raids. Obviously, those two things should give the best gear, since you had to work for it, but I think it would give a nice worldly feel if you could occasionally come across things like this in the open world. The Odin and Behemoth FATEs would be the closest comparisons I could make... that is, if the gear they gave was actually relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    My greatest fear is that they were lying about it and are just going to screw us all over. However, if they do any quest steps that are similar to light farming from novus/zodiac stage, I could see how they might be able to offer some compensation there. Maybe they would offer bonuses in farm values to people who have a zeta, that kind of thing.
    I swear if the bonus is extra dialog I will start cueing fates in the churning mists just to MPK the moogles and laugh as the Dragons devour them!
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