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    Something else I was thinking of, which is just "Lalafells and the Garlean Empire"
    I've also decided to delve into the other topics I've pondered about. Lalafell in the Garlean empire.
    I've seen one conscripted Lalafell here.

    But where do you think they were conscripted from? Lalafell primarily came from the Southern Seas. Do you think they were taken when Ala Mhigo did? From Othard's imperialization?

    On similar note, Wedge and Garlond Ironworks.
    Is Wedge "Garlean" by virtue of his working for Cid and having him as his mentor? Did Ironworks exist before Cid left Garlemald and went to Eorzea so he could have brought Wedge along from that time? Or is it more likely that Wedge joined under the Ironworks once Cid came to Eorzea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    But where do you think they were conscripted from? Lalafell primarily came from the Southern Seas. Do you think they were taken when Ala Mhigo did? From Othard's imperialization?
    I don't trust anything the game tells me about what races "came from" where or who lived where "first," anymore. We're told the game from points of view and they're often wrong. For example, the Elezen would have us believe that they were the first to settle Eorzea and the Hyur "invaded" in great migratory waves when that's pretty much only true of the post-Sixth-Calamity re-settling. The farther back you go, the less accurate the information is. Recently, lots of a lalafell came from the southern islands. Who knows how far back this is true for, though, you know?

    The fishing log, for example, tells us of a fish brought by a Lalafellin prince exiled from Othard. There's another fish in the Black Shroud named in the lalafellin tongue by the "first" Lalafellin settlers in the realm.

    I'd say it's a pretty fair assumption that at least the Five Races were created by Hydaelyn at the birth of "this" world - the physical world in which we currently live (if not the world, at least her sphere of influence, whatever that is). Recent comments from Koji (Fernehalwes) are worded in such a way that almost nearly kind of confirms this. Where the Au Ra and Garleans fit into this is anybody's guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Five Races are global and have been settling, migrating, and resettling in various clusters for ages and ages.

    They could have been conscripted from anywhere. However, those enemies in your screenshots look to be of the VIIth Legion under Nael van Darnus, whose ranks were heavily fortified with Ala Mhigan conscripts after returning from the Eastern Theatre. That parcitular Lalafell might be Ala Mhigan. He's a mage, so he was surely conscripted from somewhere not-Garlemald.

    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    Did Ironworks exist before Cid left Garlemald and went to Eorzea so he could have brought Wedge along from that time? Or is it more likely that Wedge joined under the Ironworks once Cid came to Eorzea?
    In the Crystal Tower story arc, Cid is talking to Wedge and says "we" left Garlemald, so I figure Biggs and Wedge have been with him since before they defected. On the way to Garuda, Cid says that he "built" the Ironworks after arriving in Eorzea, but I'm relatively sure a number of his team worked together before that (possibly for a different incarnation of an organization by the same name). I don't remember for sure at the moment, but I think we even see a little Echo of them together at the time.
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