Final Fantasy 14 is starting to lose appeal because...

[Tenku]

I still don't know why some of you white knights are so against open world content that adds to end game progression. Why must everything be the same 2 instances every patch? Have any of you ever played Ragnarok Online, Vanguard, Lineage 2, Archeage, Aion? Obviously these mmos did things wrong and things right, but the only thing that's open world right now is mindless gathering and farming for mats to level up crafting that doesn't even give anything worth a damn. For all you people who argues that there are hunts, fates, etc... it takes less than 2 weeks to finish that content where it doesn't help you progress anymore.

[DreamAngel-Ren]

I still don't know why some of you white knights are so against open world content that adds to end game progression. Why must everything be the same 2 instances every patch? Have any of you ever played Ragnarok Online, Vanguard, Lineage 2, Archeage, Aion? Obviously these mmos did things wrong and things right, but the only thing that's open world right now is mindless gathering and farming for mats to level up crafting that doesn't even give anything worth a damn. For all you people who argues that there are hunts, fates, etc... it takes less than 2 weeks to finish that content where it doesn't help you progress anymore.

They're not against it (wow, here we go with the labeling). Some are just content with the game the way it is (I'm one of them) while others want change which that is okay (I don't mind change), but don't expect it to arrive in such quick notice, you gotta wait for it. Waited too long? Then..yeah, that's up to you on what you want to do. No feelings hurt here, I'm just gonna keep playing.

[Gamer3427]

Off topic starting note. I only "liked" the OP because they had 99 likes and it bugged me that it wasn't 100.....

Anyhow. I will agree that right now there is just a lot of grinding to the endgame, and it's actually what finally caused me to take a two week break that I just came back from last week, (the first break for longer than a couple of days I've taken since I started playing 8 months ago). That being said, I'm fully back and tackling that grind now, and while it can be a pain at times, it's no where near as annoying or tedious as a lot of games I've played. It also helps to have a few friends that you consistently play with, that you do said runs together with, but can also do other things with such as leveling up other classes, chasing down treasure maps, or even obliterating unsynced dungeons with just because you can. The trick is to get some friends together who aren't purely focused on that grind, and figure out something you can all do together......

[DreamAngel-Ren]

Join date- July 2015 >_> Give it time. Most of us had an open mind in 2.0, until seeing the same old content formula for every single update (2-3 dungeons, 2 of which being rehashed older dungeons, 1 primal, 1 8 or 24 man raid). Where's all that content from 2.0 - 2.55 you ask? Dead and obsolete. Most (like dungeon gear or some primals) are obsolete on release.

Darling the date that you are looking at is when I joined the forums. I've been part of the ffxiv family since 2.0 as well and I'm still not bored. ^^

[Synestra]

Tbh i think we will see tons of new features when PS3 supports drops, because that piece of shit is currently holding this game as an hostage.

[Cherie]

Most MMO's go through a "honeymoon" phase with someone and then start to get stale even with new content.

If you go somewhere else, it will seem better for a while but it's all the same in the end.

I'd say it's just a fault of the genre in general. Generating reply value is a tricky business. In the end it seems there is always grinding.

[Stanelis]

So a handful of people posting on the forums is everyone. Ergo, the game is actually only populated by a few hundred people.

There is actually a quite large consensus concerning the shortcomings of the game.

As you can see in this reddit topic : https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ring_game_and/ , the main rebutal is like 378 upvote strong.

[Vinestra]

There is actually a quite large consensus concerning the shortcomings of the game.

As you can see in this reddit topic : https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ring_game_and/ , the main rebutal is like 378 upvote strong.

Thats still a handful of people (vocal minority) though 378 people agree the games stale out of 82446 on the Subreddit.

[Stanelis]

Thats still a handful of people (vocal minority) though 378 people agree the games stale out of 82446 on the Subreddit.

It is called sampling (especially amongst people who still care about the game to be vocal, who many don't even care enough anymore to even post ?).

Also most people who don't see the shortcoming of the game are actually either 1) new players who are still leveling, or didn't experience the 2.0 2) ultra casuals who play the game to glamour their gear while doing gardening in their FC house.

Nobody in their right mind would defend the game design choices made in FFXIV (especially regarding fates or lack of content at level 60, I m saying content, not stuff to grind on the same tiny scrap of content).

[Spellbinder]

Nobody in their right mind would defend the game design choices made in FFXIV (especially regarding fates or lack of content at level 60, I m saying content, not stuff to grind on the same tiny scrap of content).

So, hypothetically speaking, if the developers came here to defend the design choices they made, they're just crazy and need to leave?

I'm not defending them, mind, just asking a question.