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  1. #241
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Good stuff, quick reflexes on that Thundercloud proc. Raging strikes CD is pretty long and procs are kinda unpredictable (Sunaoko circumvented this problem though), but it's good to know that there's potential there. Of the over 440 matches I've done last month, I've not seen a single BLM do this much damage in these two videos.

    Most of the ones I've met are either just trigger-happy sleepers or just assume it's a PvE encounter, bust out Ley Lines and get owned soon after.

    I'm all for diversity, there's so many ways to play a class and when you get so fixated on this SMN issue, you blind yourself against what other classes can do.

    One of my FC mates showed me a video of his Bard taking a huge chunk of health (~80%) out of an opponent in the space of 2-3 seconds, pretty much the same as what a MCH can do except with less button presses. When you know how to play a class well, it'll be powerful in your hands. It just so happens that the SMN burst is one of the easiest to execute. SMN = Easy to burst with, easy to counter against.

    Note: A few matches ago, I finally met a MCH who singled me out and burst me from 100% to 20% within ~3 seconds. Now I know how it feels like to be on the receiving end of a MCH burst LOL. Such direct damage is so difficult to prevent, by the time you notice it you'll be lying down on the ground.
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    Last edited by Aphel; 09-16-2015 at 04:05 AM.

  2. #242
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphel View Post
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    It's the thundercloud proc part that makes it fairly unreliable or on demand. I'd still argue that of all the ranged jobs, BLM's burst is still the most unreliable and incredibly situational for something as variable as seal rock. You could see it as the fact that no one knows how to play BLM or people are still qwacking at how OP summoner is, but honestly we're at least a month or two into seal rock now and everything has been creased out, the general census hasn't changed much and there's some tweaks that can be done in all areas
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  3. #243
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Somebody wanna tell me about that melee lb distance, it is fair you can use it 30 y away from your opponent?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PLzWBNUdFg
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  4. #244
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    Cero Skill
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    2 week after pvp came out i started to gather info about other jobs from ppl, specially from BLM coz was the next job i wanted to try in pvp, I saw their potential but looking at scores in all the matches and their Dmg i was abit dissapointed so i just ketp asking everyone who played BLm even till 2 weeks ago i ketp doing this, and honestly almost all of them dont know how to use Blm in pvp lol,and most of them is the first time that play pvp.
    So it is not weird to find ppl that after 500 games they dont know how to use their jobs properly in pvp coz this pvp is just too casual.
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  5. #245
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Somebody wanna tell me about that melee lb distance, it is fair you can use it 30 y away from your opponent?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PLzWBNUdFg
    He finished his cast right before you used aetherial manipulation, the animation is long but the cast isn't.
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  6. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Somebody wanna tell me about that melee lb distance, it is fair you can use it 30 y away from your opponent?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PLzWBNUdFg
    I've Purified stuns right before melee LBs again and again but never had success in preventing its execution. When there's a Shoulder Tackle/Spineshatter Dive involved, the LB cast will finish before you get out of range.

    That's with sprinting though, perhaps you might see some success with Purify + Aetherial Manipulation?
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    Last edited by Aphel; 09-16-2015 at 12:38 PM.

  7. #247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphel View Post
    I've Purified stuns right before melee LBs again and again but never had success in preventing its execution. When there's a Shoulder Tackle/Spineshatter Dive involved, the LB cast will finish before you get out of range.

    That's with sprinting though, perhaps you might see some success with Purify + Aetherial Manipulation?
    I am 100% sure that won't work at all due to latency and how it works in this game
    if you get stunned and you see the lb being casted its pretty much over, one suggesting to countering melee lb is simple, more vit
    Look at the hp and the damage from the limit break, I reckon 10k would be enough for both an ordinary melee limit break and also BH limit break
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  8. #248
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapiz View Post
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    Yeah 10k health is sufficient to survive a melee LB.
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  9. #249
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    Lilyth Chan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapiz View Post
    I am 100% sure that won't work at all due to latency and how it works in this game
    if you get stunned and you see the lb being casted its pretty much over, one suggesting to countering melee lb is simple, more vit
    Look at the hp and the damage from the limit break, I reckon 10k would be enough for both an ordinary melee limit break and also **BH limit break**
    Does BH/BF affect LB damage? Given the significant boost of up to 40% from battle fever, It's weird because i've never noticed any difference.
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  10. #250
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyth View Post
    Does BH/BF affect LB damage? Given the significant boost of up to 40% from battle fever, It's weird because i've never noticed any difference.
    It does. 10k hp wont be enough to survive a battle fever melee lb but its not worth worrying and taking precautions for given the low probability of being a repeated target of such a lb.
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