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  1. #11
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    Khyan's Avatar
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    Khyan Leikas
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Blaz View Post
    I know that's why I said that.... o_O
    I misunderstood, then. Sorry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Blaz View Post
    And really shouldn't have to be pentamelding accuracy into healer gear either, accuracy is a whole nother crappy matter anyways.
    it's a moot point. Accuracy artificially increases the difficulty since you lose some stat points in other stats because of it.
    But I think it would be useful to give accuracy on healer gear/cleric stance now. And better fending accesories for tanks, of course.
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  2. #12
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    Diddle Pandle
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    My point was any other class doesn't need to wear the accessories for another class or meld in int/str/dex to do more damage.
    If nins mudras and drks magic attacks can be based on dex/str and self heals can be based on str, just swap tank damage over to vit.

    Thankfully no tank accessories have dropped for us in savage, and using my pages for str, and maybe someday vit will mean something other then more hp, less damage, less aggro pull, and less self heal, heck we're already penalized on our damage by using tank stance anyways why make it worse.

    Either way, tanks need useful accessories, and healers need to be able to hit things, makes me mad when I started missing on HW mobs once it was time to "upgrade" to gear without accuracy.
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  3. #13
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Blaz View Post
    I know that's why I said that.... o_O
    And really shouldn't have to be pentamelding accuracy into healer gear either, accuracy is a whole nother crappy matter anyways.
    Accuracy should just be dropped as a stat.
    It makes zero sense, it's just frustrating when you are just under the 100%, or when the boss turns around you are suddenly attacking the front, and the miss kills your combo. It's just stupid.
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  4. #14
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    Yosho Demonshout
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    What they should have done was had attack power scale from VIT for tank classes instead of STR.
    YES PLEEEEASE!!!
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Actually, back in 1.0 they did! When they did a big class overhaul near the end of classic FFXIV, each class was given two stats to dictate the power of their spells. One was the stat we still have today, the other was a secondary stat: VIT in the case of tanks.
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  6. #16
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    I think they should make the parry stat more appealing. It's the only tank stat, but tanks avoid it like the plague.

    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    Accuracy should just be dropped as a stat.
    It makes zero sense, it's just frustrating when you are just under the 100%, or when the boss turns around you are suddenly attacking the front, and the miss kills your combo. It's just stupid.
    Accuracy is the closest thing this game has to horizontal progression. It's the only thing that people actually have to adjust their gear around. I don't think people want accuracy dropped as much as they think they do. It would make gearing even more boring than it already is.
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  7. #17
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    Phafi Flailspike
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    Well maybe in the next zone of Alex, you will need Vit accessories to survive a tankbuster, and there won't be such tight DPS checks?
    We'd still use STR and just say "make sure the tank has adlo, and the boss has eye, virus, and path"
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  8. #18
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    Kyan Ashton
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Phafi View Post
    We'd still use STR and just say "make sure the tank has adlo, and the boss has eye, virus, and path"
    You forgot Disable, Supervirus, Delirium, Dragon Kick and Stoneskin.
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  9. #19
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    Accuracy is the closest thing this game has to horizontal progression. It's the only thing that people actually have to adjust their gear around. I don't think people want accuracy dropped as much as they think they do. It would make gearing even more boring than it already is.
    It causes way too many problems. And most of the time is just needlessly frustrating.
    I am not a fan of Horizontal progression anyways, as there will ALWAYS be BiS, MinMaxing, etc. In the end Horizontal Progression is usually just Vertical Progression in disguise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phafi View Post
    We'd still use STR and just say "make sure the tank has adlo, and the boss has eye, virus, and path"
    What if that's not enough? Or if the tank buster happens too often for Virus/E4E/Holm/etc? Though yeah, it's SE we are talking about I am not really expecting something like this to happen.
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  10. #20
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Well this is already one of the most easy and straight forward gearing systems in an mmo. Opinions are opinions and all, but I don't think many people would want it to be made even simpler.

    Don't really see why you're having that much trouble with it either. Hit cap, continue on with life. How is that frustrating?
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