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    Alexander 3 Savage Warrior MainTank DPS

    Hi guys.
    Actually we are doing A3S (and defeated yesterday ) with 2 war. Ive see a lot of WAR parses but being OT. So my question is: what should be the DPS from WAR maintanking?

    Thank you!
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    Worry about DPS when you actually wipe to hard enrage or a DPS check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Worry about DPS when you actually wipe to hard enrage or a DPS check.
    Hmm? He's already beaten the encounter and just wants to see if he or his WAR comrade can improve their DPS. Is that so wrong, trying to better yourself even after you have enough DPS to clear an encounter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Hmm? He's already beaten the encounter and just wants to see if he or his WAR comrade can improve their DPS. Is that so wrong, trying to better yourself even after you have enough DPS to clear an encounter?
    You cleared the encounter. Shouldn't that be a rewarding experience all in itself instead of numbers?

    Man, I miss the time when everyone in mumble would shout Yeahh!!!! After making it out alive and complete a hard mission, oh the satisfaction.. no one were using parsers..
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    You cleared the encounter. Shouldn't that be a rewarding experience all in itself instead of numbers?

    Man, I miss the time when everyone in mumble would shout Yeahh!!!! After making it out alive and complete a hard mission, oh the satisfaction.. no one were using parsers..
    pfft, yeah, who cares about taking pride in your gameplay? You should just blindly mash buttons and hope you come out on top, that's the true spirit of fun! All these "new school" tanks are out of touch, tanks shouldn't even be worried about doing damage. Just try to stay alive while using abilities in no coherent manner and wait for the dps to win the fight by doing the same.
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    Well, a tank MUST do DPS too. Its stupid to think that only the DPS must do dps. Even the healers must do to beat savage modes of the raid.

    BTW, nobody told me a number xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdorGrey View Post
    pfft, yeah, who cares about taking pride in your gameplay? You should just blindly mash buttons and hope you come out on top, that's the true spirit of fun! All these "new school" tanks are out of touch, tanks shouldn't even be worried about doing damage. Just try to stay alive while using abilities in no coherent manner and wait for the dps to win the fight by doing the same.
    Some do like the Chaos of a good fight! ^^

    Still, if you clear Savage, You will of course have made it to the top, and not only by mashing buttons (but you would still have cleared it, kudos!)

    Tank needs to DPS, Healers need to DPS: so DPS needs to Tank and heal? <-- food for thought.

    Sad that SE went that way, making the Trinity tweaks, but it's because some peeps asked for it, and they listened to them.

    if it was a nice touch to DPS while Healing or Tanking but not required, things would be different.

    At least for me:

    Tank must hold aggro first, then DPS/Heal

    Healers must Heal first, then DPS.

    DPS must DPS first, then use their buff skills to complete the charm.

    And some like to see their numbers, I don't have anything against that. What I'm against it's that the DF or PF is already hard as it is with their requirements; put numbers and then you'll be kicked if you're not doing 1000 DPS, but 999..

    I pay to have fun, I can clear just like the other ones given the same equipment, and lots of peeps like me.

    I like to raid and of course it's another notch than the normal dungeons.

    Some like to think they are the 1st DPS, good for them. I love to enjoy it with a group, and so far, we manage to clear them.

    To each their own, but I doubt SE's stance will change on that.
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    the answer is whatever you did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telperyon View Post
    Well, a tank MUST do DPS too. Its stupid to think that only the DPS must do dps. Even the healers must do to beat savage modes of the raid.

    BTW, nobody told me a number xD
    did you swap to deliverance to fellcleave, just curious edit; i mean use Fell Cleaves instead of inner beasts; sounds risky but i dont know the fight
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdorGrey View Post
    pfft, yeah, who cares about taking pride in your gameplay? You should just blindly mash buttons and hope you come out on top, that's the true spirit of fun! All these "new school" tanks are out of touch, tanks shouldn't even be worried about doing damage. Just try to stay alive while using abilities in no coherent manner and wait for the dps to win the fight by doing the same.
    If you have a level 60 warrior you clearly have no idea how to use it if you think button mashing was involved. I'm sure Holmgang Vengeance Inner Beast TOB Equilibrium etc (everything) was used in a timely matter oh and new RAIDS with immense dps check force us to CHANGE.
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