To all the flames on primal datacenter...

[Februs]

As long as you guys carry that rep people are gonna continue to derive extreme amounts of pleasure in making your matches miserable. I dont see flames spawn camp nearly as much as u guys do.

Normally, I don't like to blatantly point fingers, but Dimitrii is not wrong here. I see Adders spawn camp all the time. Almost every match there's a small number of them trying to pick on the people who are respawning at our base, and it pisses a lot of people off. Every single time I've heard someone say "Kill the Adders" and there was no logical reason (game mode related reason, ie points) for doing it, it was because Adders camped our base or trolled us in some way.
I'm not saying the same thing doesn't happen with the other GC's. Mael has been caught red handed doing it to us too. It's just that, in the matches I've played, there seems to be a greater trend of Adders doing it. I'd say it's all in my head, but I'm never the one who cries "Kill Adders." It's something I've noticed only because Adders have successfully ticked off my Alliance so many times, and I've had to try to outshout their anger in the chat box to keep them focused on the game.

[Februs]

Thats why we need more maps and a mode for 8vs8/ 8vs8vs8 cant believe we have only 1 map for Seal Rock would be nice to get more since playing the same map all over again kinda su**s sometimes.

Agreed. 8v8, or 8v8v8 would be great, and a little map variety would be nice too. I think they'd be able to cycle a few maps if they shrunk the party sizes a bit. The problem is that, the way things are now with the maps and game modes, shrinking the sizes of the matches might only lead to worse que times because they set the DF up really badly for PvP.

PvP should have had it's own Duty finder, and not rely on the same system that PvE uses. Right now game mode ques are tied to specific maps, and they shouldn't be. I'm thinking you Que for "PvP game mode X," Instead of queing directly for a specific map, and that que would randomly start your match in any one of 3 randomly selected environments. Queing for specific dungeons in PvE makes sense, but PvP should not be bound to a specific environment. You should be able to que for a specific game mode, and the map should be random.

[Kapiz]

Pretty sure that's against ToS lol, a group of my friends got suspended for spawn camping for three matches in a row lol.

what? no, no it isn't,
camped spawns many times and didn't even get a warning, you sure your friends weren't lying?

[TiaHariberux3]

what? no, no it isn't,
camped spawns many times and didn't even get a warning, you sure your friends weren't lying?

Agree I doubt that spawn camping is against ToS and even if it would how would u see the difference between pushing a gc or camping spawn.

[Canadane]

It could be loosely tied to griefing. But a GM would probably need to be having the worst day imaginable to actually take action.

[CeveArthu]

Spawn camping is not against the ToS, what a completely stupid notion

let me guess, winning is also against the ToS? what about killing someone in pvp?

[TiaHariberux3]

Spawn camping is not against the ToS, what a completely stupid notion

let me guess, winning is also against the ToS? what about killing someone in pvp?

Killing someone is okay as long as u dont use PvP skills. xD

[C00KIE_M0N57R]

Spawn camping is not against the ToS, what a completely stupid notion

let me guess, winning is also against the ToS? what about killing someone in pvp?

The notion that I'm getting at, is that spawn camping is unsporting. Its on the same level as teabagging people that you killed (and i can confirm this personally, you can get jail time for this xD). Its one thing to kill people in little skirmishes, but to literally hold back an alliance from leaving their spawn without being picked off and lose points is downright unfair. It was so prevalent in secure that they made it so that spawn camping was almost impossible in slaughter. Most of the time the people being camped isn't even in first place. In professional sports you don't kick people why they're down figuratively or literally. The same should be said this game's pvp. Everyone should have equal opportunity to play the game; spawn camping denies people that right .

[Stormrider]

More then likely they were griefing with emotes and got an angry GM. It seems that even on the teams I end up on, the players that like spawn camping like emote griefing. Would this be enough to get someone suspended, I don't know. No one has posted screenshots. But GMs seem so arbitrary. One will say one thing. Then someone will post a screenshot of another one saying something else.

[RiceisNice]

Spawn camping is still a way to gain points if the enemy is straight up feeding kills. It's a valid tactic as anything else (with equally high risks attached to it).