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  1. #81
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    FunkYeahDragons's Avatar
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    Cafe Miel
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Where are you hanging out? I think there are times where it's just a string of terrible experiences, but the environment you're in (and probably the age/maturity of players) can also play a factor. My FC mates rarely even mouth off in PVP. With no relaxed place to retreat to, the negative experiences can start building up.

    Yesterday I had a Brayflox normal run where the healer and tank both died twice in under five minutes. There was one nasty comment, but after that the healer left, we got a new one, and finished fast. A couple of the bombs in Copperbell died and we just told them not to kill them. *shrug*
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  2. #82
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    Hayward's Avatar
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    Hayward Timberwolf
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by kuikui View Post
    I got a new one today...

    ...In neverreap the second section of mobs after the wind tunnel jump pad, tank pulls everything up to the wind jump to the boss. Of course he dies in less than 4 seconds. And here's the kicker, he blames the SUMMONER, me! Why? I said, "why did you pull all that? it's not normal routine." And I get a snarky reply, "It's the smn fault. If we didn't have you we wouldn't of wiped. Your just bad."

    And then I was kicked!

    So these jack hats thought a drg was going to aoe 10+ mobs by himself? LMAO.
    This is the result of sheep spreading this "efficiency" garbage in this and other forums. I'd attribute this to a "Monkey see, monkey do" mentality, but even this example would be an insult to monkeys.
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  3. #83
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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    This is the result of sheep spreading this "efficiency" garbage in this and other forums. I'd attribute this to a "Monkey see, monkey do" mentality, but even this example would be an insult to monkeys.
    idk his story is so nonsensical that I'd like to hear the other side of it. From his perspective it's just so obvious that the tank was wrong; I've run into some strange people in the game, but you may as well argue that the sky is orange. Maybe that's really how it went down, but condemning all speedrunning from that is a bit premature imo.
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  4. #84
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    Vanitas's Avatar
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    Vanitas Olterian
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    If they're angry be all like "bro...u mad?"
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  5. #85
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by kuikui View Post
    I got a new one today...

    ...In neverreap the second section of mobs after the wind tunnel jump pad, tank pulls everything up to the wind jump to the boss. Of course he dies in less than 4 seconds. And here's the kicker, he blames the SUMMONER, me! Why? I said, "why did you pull all that? it's not normal routine." And I get a snarky reply, "It's the smn fault. If we didn't have you we wouldn't of wiped. Your just bad."

    And then I was kicked!

    So these jack hats thought a drg was going to aoe 10+ mobs by himself? LMAO.
    Normally I would be like this is far fetched but before I got my SMN to 60 I had a tank yell at me in the vault because I wasn't using deathflare ummm I wasn't lvl 60 lol and even if I was I would be synced at 58!!! So I tried explaining that and he swore I was lying so I just left lol
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  6. #86
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    Synestra's Avatar
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    What do you need to know as an off-tank to do A1N? Voke .5 when it appears and tank it opposite of the original.
    Off-topic but for OT its actually less hassle to voke Opressor itself as 0.5 will automatically has MT on hes main target when he spawns.
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  7. #87
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    Ashkendor's Avatar
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Synestra View Post
    Off-topic but for OT its actually less hassle to voke Opressor itself as 0.5 will automatically has MT on hes main target when he spawns.
    Yep, much easier to provoke Oppressor and have the MT run across the room.
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  8. #88
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    sirDarts's Avatar
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    Eh, with an amazing group it's kinda overkill. I did it is ts3 with people from our static and coordinating holmgang+benediction I never had to even leave cleric stance.

    Still, you should have a good idea of what you're group can do by then, and this group didn't seem up for it, but it's not an absurd expectation.
    Yes, I can imagine that with a really good coordination and gear you can manage it, but that's never the case in DF.

    Dunno how you should know what your group is capable of. The only are before that is super easy to full-pull even for an normally geared group.
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  9. #89
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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    Yes, I can imagine that with a really good coordination and gear you can manage it, but that's never the case in DF.

    Dunno how you should know what your group is capable of. The only are before that is super easy to full-pull even for an normally geared group.
    My point is you can not only manage it with gear/coordination, you can lulz through it. It's not a ridiculous expectation. In the poster's case they weren't up for it, but a decent amount of pugs are. He made it sound outlandish to even attempt.
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  10. #90
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    Odett's Avatar
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Synestra View Post
    Off-topic but for OT its actually less hassle to voke Opressor itself as 0.5 will automatically has MT on hes main target when he spawns.
    Oh, that's cool! I'll try that ^^
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