Tired of the Same ol' Formula...

[FoxyAreku]

FFXI didn't do that. Every mob in that game was useful, even in dynamis..every mob had the chance to drop AF2 or a purpose for the most part

Lets not reference XI. It wasn't as popular as XIV for a reason.

I don't think the repeated structure is the problem. There is just too much stuff that isn't incentivized. No1 does treasure maps because nothing good comes from them. No1 does hunts because you don't really need lvl 180 gear anymore. You can skip over to 190-200 stuff. No1 does fates because they made it very easy to get the 10 levels from 50-60.

Relic weapon might change this some. Might give people more of a reason to do these things. But with how easy it is to get esoteric weapon a lot of people might not even bother with relic, myself included.

No one does treasure maps? I do them, and everyone in my FC does them. They drop lots of good things I don't know what you're talking about. o.O

No one does fates because they made 50-60 easy? 50-60 on an alt class takes about as long as 1-50 does, how is that 'too easy'? If anything it's ridiculously monotanous. And how do you say no one does fates? I have fate parties on my server 24 hours a day, that's an awful lot of people doing them.

As for hunts, people still spam hunt linkshells and every hunt mob that spawns on my server is killed within 5 minutes of it spawning usually. Again, rather odd for something 'no one' does.

Like are we playing the same game? Your entire post is just blatantly wrong.

Also it's pretty obvious that relic will be much better than the esoteric weapon very quickly, or did you not pay any attention to the 2.0 relic? lol

[Ortamus]

Lets not reference XI. It wasn't as popular as XIV for a reason.

XIV has been made for everyone to play. It's so dumbed down it's like the Candy Crush Saga of the MMO world. XI required players to be able to think.

[FoxyAreku]

XIV has been made for everyone to play. It's so dumbed down it's like the Candy Crush Saga of the MMO world. XI required players to be able to think.

The general population don't play video games, especially not MMOs, to think, or to work.

Like I said, XI wasn't popular for a reason.

Merely a fact, and is no way related to my own opinions on the matter. Even though I do think XI had a lot of unrelated problems and I'm so happy XIV keeps what it copies from XI to a bare minimum.

[Ortamus]

The general population don't play video games, especially not MMOs, to think, or to work.

Like I said, XI wasn't popular for a reason.

Merely a fact, and is no way related to my own opinions on the matter. Even though I do think XI had a lot of unrelated problems and I'm so happy XIV keeps what it copies from XI to a bare minimum.

I'd not want XIV to turn into XI because it'd lose a hell of a lot of players. I'd not mind some of the open world ideas to be implemented though. Like that Siege thing (think it was called that) them huge attacks were lots of fun.

[Obysuca]

Like I said, XI wasn't popular for a reason.

Zero advertising outside Japan and released in a time when fewer people had a pc and mmos weren't widely popular like they are today. More people have a pc now and because of WoW forcing ads down your throat for the last 10 years everywhere and anywhere they can, more people know about mmos. Back when XI was released, playing a mmo was widely considered "nerdy" and "uncool". People would make fun of others who played them back then, but now because of tv/movies/references, mmos are looked at in a better light than they were in 2002, so more people give them a try. That's why it wasn't "popular", not so much because of gameplay. If that was the case, it wouldn't have lasted for 13 years.

Let's take a look at mmos like XIV and how "popular" they are. How many in the last 10 years that are exactly like XIV are still around? Barely, if any. Most were hyped then disappeared off the face of the planet before their first year, while others like SWTOR went f2p almost instantly. You can say XI "wasn't popular", but when it's lasted for 13 years and the cookie cutter mmos like XIV die in 1-3 years, it sure looks like the cookie cutter ones aren't too popular. They might be "popular" for the first few months/a year, considering more people have a pc now and more are into gaming than 15 years ago, they're usually only "popular" because its the mmo of the month to try out, but once a new shiny one comes out, if said mmo doesn't have anything that sets it apart or has staying power, they die off.

You say XI wasn't "popular", but look how many mmos have come out in the last decade (and died off too) and XI's still going. Think about that.
A mmo that lasts for 13 years, while staying p2p vs a generic mmo that gets popular for a few months then drops down a ton / dies off. I'd say the one that lasts for over a decade is more popular than one that dies off shortly and no one remembers.

[Phireblast]

You know something is wrong with your game SOMEWHERE when you see these SAME threads everyday.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

Lets not reference XI. It wasn't as popular as XIV for a reason.

Oh How about let's. Let's reference FFXI a lot, because while not every game is perfect, that one had good things that contributed to its longevity. Justin Bieber is popular because there's a lot of hormonal teenagers in this world who haven't been exposed to other types of music, does that mean his music is super good? If you say yes, I'll respect that, but I will have some doubts about your tastes. Also if you play a song on the radio over and over, how can people not know about it? The same with FFXIV. It was advertised waaaaayyy more than FFXI. FFXI wasn't really advertised much in the west like someone said. For a not so much advertised game, lasting for over 10 years is a big feat, so, more respect to that game.

[aurace1095]

How exactly would they spice it up? Having trash between bosses is just kind of a standard thing.

FFXI didn't do that. Every mob in that game was useful, even in dynamis..every mob had the chance to drop AF2 or a purpose for the most part

Lets not reference XI. It wasn't as popular as XIV for a reason.

Yes, lets ask for a suggestion / example, and when one is given, just completely ignore it because you personally do not like the game that it came from.

[Iromi]

Yes, lets ask for a suggestion / example, and when one is given, just completely ignore it because you personally do not like the game that it came from.

Huh? Did you misunderstand what I wrote? Lol.

I was saying ffxi did a good job in making nearly every monster have a use...how the heck is that a bad thing? FFXI is my favorite mmo, where on earth did you get that I don't like it from my post? Okaaay...