Well yeah that's another way to do it but it's very unnecessary to get angry at other people just for parse numbers. Unless you're in their static. You don't have the right to lash out on others just for that.
Well yeah that's another way to do it but it's very unnecessary to get angry at other people just for parse numbers. Unless you're in their static. You don't have the right to lash out on others just for that.
Yep, same here. Even when I go blind into 4-man content (which I do most of the time, 4-man content is easy enough 99% of the time to do blind), people are happy to explain, or at least don't mind a wipe or two till the new person learns the mechanics.Same. I've been in two parties that wiped once tonight (once in Trial Roulette and another time in a dungeon I was farming for gear) and everyone was totally chill about it-- no one got angry, they just got up and tried it again. I'd estimate probably 99% of my DF experiences are like that.
Most DF runs are limited to "hi"..."bye". And I even get quite a few with talkative players and we joke around and stuff.
I've done hundreds of DF runs and maybe met a dozen rotten apples.
It's more that OP is unlucky. Or overvaluing one bad experience.
I have close to zero issues on Phoenix/Chaos. How you are able to get (EU) people mad at you is beyond me.


Here is something think about: I got fussed at once in Castrum M, because I was "saving" a healer that had an add on her, that the PLD(fresh 50..) who right there in plain sight did not get off her. Saying that "runs are always slow when people try to be a hero". I ended up playing with that PLD in Satasha HM later, and I was very close to dropping from the group, but I stuck with it. There no heroes in this game. There are team players.
Sad to say but after that I'll never run Castrum ever again.
sirDarts: The people on data center are cool in general, but there is still the quitting after 1 wipe and throwing insults that occur. There is one highlight that made me smile though: The Chrysalis. 5 people needed the clear. We wiped 4-6 times, I don't remember. No one left, everyone was cool. But that was on the second day. The first day, 1 wipe, and we're all retards and other shit. I haven't been to Steps of Faith yet on the choas data center, which is a home for really rude/bigotted players on at least the Primal data center..
So in short: Trials are where you're gonna see some rudness. Dungeons I don't think people care unless things are really bad.
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Good grief, everything gets turned into a debate about DPS meters... how about saving that for the myriad of threads that exist about it? While I support parsers, I sure as hell don't support piss poor attitudes and manners on either side of things. I may be silent in DF, but I am generally nice.
In relation to the OP, I would suggest finding a new server or migrating to a different datacenter. I've seen very few, maybe like two, people being angry though, and I DF a lot.


Ya know, all that transferring I did may actually do the OP some good.
OP your problem: Aether data center. Get off it. You're only going to run into crap in trials on the Primal. And Malboro/Excalibur is a good server(s)
You don't have a right to lash out at anyone for any reason. The problem is that many people don't know that they are doing terrible. I have met a black mage who was doing less DPS than the healer, and he will never know he was so bad because I was there on DRG and was doing 48-54% of the party DPS and we cleared without any issues. People that get carried will think that their playstyle is perfectly fine. Which is a problem, and without parsers they can't know.
To be perfectly honest I don't mind people dropping after one wipe, it's better than if they were to insult others, mostly it's easy to replace them. The insults is what I pretty much never see. Last time in Alex 1 Normal when the tanks messed up the agro transfer, and one of the started cussing the other. Before that? I can't even remember.
Sure I have kicked a tank in Brayflox that kept losing agro during the whole run, didn't communicate, and manged to die TWICE to the line AoE of the last boss. But nobody insulted them or anything.



Nah, Aether isn't the problem. I've been there for a year and have had very, very few bad DF experiences. The vast majority have been neutral at the very least, mostly because people don't say more than "hi" and "bye."
God forbid people want to play the game they are paying a sub for and not watch someone else do it for them just because they rushed ahead/got on the game first. This is exactly why I try to get through new content quick (not that i want to), I get to see it for myself and learn with people, but minus the rage cause they are in the exact same position. Its no fun if you know exactly how it ends every time.


Aether is fine, why would you recommend Excalibur as well? That place is horrid and ridiculously overpopulated.
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