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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    "Anyone who disagrees with me is stupid!"
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    Don't make forum posts if you are so immensely adamant in your stance on the subject that people arguing with you are inadvertently being referred to as idiots. Forums are for discussion, and discussion sometimes leads to others opposing you. Deal with it without referring to opposition as stupid and lashing out in anger.
    He has a point. Just because your not listening to it doesn't make it untrue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    He has a point. Just because your not listening to it doesn't make it untrue.
    Oddly enough it works both ways. Funny how beliefs on a video game can have different approaches, eh? Just because he doesn't listen, doesn't make it untrue.

    Edit: Woops was discussing in another thread and got mixed up! :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Oddly enough it works both ways. Funny how beliefs on minuscule glamour based aspects of a video game can have different approaches, eh? Just because he doesn't listen, doesn't make it untrue.
    It doesn't seem like your listening to him. I mean presenting to you two choices.

    - More Content.

    - Less Content.

    The game though, really doesn't support much of it. Less they drop the PS3 completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    And I think he's being difficult and unrealistic. Like a lot of players (Myself included), we're content locusts. We eat it all up, quickly too. Developers can't possibly keep up with fabulous to keep us 100% occupied 100% of the time (Which funnily enough, he still has things to do, he just doesn't want to do them). This brings us full circle, he's been playing a game for years in which he's been aware of the direction it's been on and seemingly will continue to be on. For what? No good god damn reason. If you're bored with a game, unhappy with a game and KNOW that the direction the game is on is unsuited to make you happy and are not willing or wanting to do any of the content that is remaining to you... Well, like I said, I have no pity for a masochist.

    They could add TWICE or THRICE the content they normally do during large patches and it MIGHT last him an extra day or 2 and he'll be right back on here with his cheerleader shouting about how the game doesn't put out enough content to appease is gluttonous and then ungrateful attitude towards the game. FF comes out with polished content patches fairly quickly for an MMO. If he's not happy, and will continue not being happy and KNOWS he won't be happy, why is he here instead of playing something he actually enjoys, will continue to enjoy and like the direction it's going?o you... Well, like I said, I have no pity for a masochist.
    Which is why Themepark games are badly designed in general for Western audiences. However FFXIV is a Japanese game and Japanese players most of them do not have much time to play games. So this content is perfect for them, the caps are actually good because it encourages them to get to bed early and get up for school. Which, isn't really a bad thing. However most MMOs these days are not made for content locusts like EQ/EQ2/SWG/Most old games were made for.

    Sandbox games and player made content are a way developers can keep up. Since the players develop the content for other players.

    SWG was amazing because there was so much busywork and crafting required other players to literally escort you across dangerous land just to get and place a harvestor. You had to hire players to escort you and it was pretty much a player made quest. So much potential in Sandbox games that are lost because developers are too busy wanting to make things and don't think players can handle it themselves, yet they gobble it all up. =P

    Why am I not playing those games? Outdated, or dead. My computer can barely run them because of how old they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Which is why Themepark games are badly designed in general for Western audiences. However FFXIV is a Japanese game and Japanese players most of them do not have much time to play games. So this content is perfect for them, the caps are actually good because it encourages them to get to bed early and get up for school. Which, isn't really a bad thing. However most MMOs these days are not made for content locusts like EQ/EQ2/SWG/Most old games were made for.

    Sandbox games and player made content are a way developers can keep up. Since the players develop the content for other players.

    SWG was amazing because there was so much busywork and crafting required other players to literally escort you across dangerous land just to get and place a harvestor. You had to hire players to escort you and it was pretty much a player made quest. So much potential in Sandbox games that are lost because developers are too busy wanting to make things and don't think players can handle it themselves, yet they gobble it all up. =P

    Why am I not playing those games? Outdated, or dead. My computer can barely run them because of how old they are.
    Well, if you stop by the japanese forums you'll see that recently they have been bringing up the exact same topics up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    And I think he's being difficult and unrealistic. Like a lot of players (Myself included), we're content locusts. We eat it all up, quickly too. Developers can't possibly keep up with fabulous content to keep us 100% occupied 100% of the time
    So, combining this and the rejection for content longevity and relevance (through gear system reworking), the players who are perfectly fine with this game's current state, they want new content fast but does not want the devs to figure out ways to make the content stick longer than a few months...because they believe that's how many other want it? And then you tell people who don't like this to basically unsub? How do you justify batch subs then? Or even subs at all? Would it not be better if they just sell patches? XIV patches are best around after all right?

    You have your merry go round ride and you only want the devs to only replace the horses you sit on every few moths and that's it? You don't want the devs to add a new ride and then upkeep both? People say this is a theme park mmo. When a theme park announces they're expanding, do you expect new rides or do you expect them to just replace the horses, carts, etc and essentially have the same rides?
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