What does Heavensward actually bring to the table as an expansion?

[DracotheDragon]

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crafting (a grind that a HUGE portion of the game dose not like)
Gathering (things gathered tend to be pointless and extremely tiering, everything that can be gathered takes specific timing and oh hey you tried once come back tomorrow)
Leveling and playing your other classes/jobs (if your trying to learn a class once you have a healer tank or DPS that you like playing maxed out and you want to play the end game content then there is no real reason to level the other classes lets not forget as well no-one does half the available fates so you can't beat it and level 50 dungeons give no EXP making it far more tedious, even then not everyone likes playing every class)
Sightseeing log (done very quickly.)
Gold saucer (once you have the Fenrir or turtle if you even wanted them, you have nothing here.)
Collect every minion (minions currently offer no value besides looks, and on the most part useless, there is also no reward for collecting minions)
Collect all mounts (most mounts are recolours, or most people have there chocobo out and can't use them.)
Perfect your glamour (glamour is expensive and the -in- looks will change with the next patch, and a lot of people do not care for glamours.)
House purchase and decor (on nearly EVERY SERVER you cannot buy a house)
beast tribe quests (done once and then completed)
Hunts (do it for a week or two and DONE)
Become rich (pointless, if you become 'rich' then you want for nothing this then trivialises saving gil to get something you wanted, but also means you won't wish to do anything else because you have the gil.)
Craft and pentameld the ultimate cartable gear (gear that is outgeared by endgame content and will be even more outdated with the next patch plus lets not forget the PURE RNG THAT DESTROYS THE MATERIA)
Max out your relics (once done theres no point also MOST stages of relic look identical and again not meny care for looks)
Teach others (no mentor system in this game and most 'newbie players' do not wish to be taught they wish to learn themselves or by there friends)
Mentor (look at above)
Make new friends (instanced servers make this difficult, and most people stick with there FC's it is extremely difficult to make friends in this game because everyone either can't here you or thinks your spamming the chat unless it's a rp server)
Talk to folks (most people put you on black list if you fill the chat log or ignore you)
Treasure Maps (pure RNG for items that do nothing.)
Seasonal events (done in ONE hour or less or your money back)
Chocobo breeding/racing (no point once you are higher up you will beat all NPC racers and not meny people do this so you will rarely play against a player meaning it is not fun)
Train your chocobo to lvl 20 (done once and never again and for 3 glamour on your chocobo that most do not notice use or like )

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beat me to it XD i went to the loo finished this and your post was above XD

[Kosmos992k]

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If you dislike the game so much, why do you play? Seriously, your post demonstrates nothing more than you have a very narrow focus, and empasizes the self inflicted nature of the problem.

You know, base on the replies I see, I honestly have to ask, why don't all of you go play something else? SE will *never* change the game to match your expectations, so rather than hanging around and being oointlessly negative and bitter, why not play something more suited to your...needs?

[Blazer]

SE will *never* change the game to match your expectations

If enough people stop subbing they'll change it.

[Kosmos992k]

If enough people stop subbing they'll change it.

If that many people stop, leaving the hardcore rump, and small minority of the current base, the game will be dead on its feet. The biggest issue this game faces is the negative whiny voices complaining that everything is faceroll easy (now that the outgear everything but Alex Savage), or crying in their cornflakes that HW didn't bring enough raid content.

[savarna]

If you dislike the game so much, why do you play? Seriously, your post demonstrates nothing more than you have a very narrow focus, and empasizes the self inflicted nature of the problem.

You still don't get the point of this entire thread and you are as clueless as ever, reason why no one takes you seriously. We DON'T HATE the game, otherwise we wouldn't be here voicing our opinions. You still haven't made any single valid statement of all the blargon you parrot and you adamantly defend. We do have the right to voice our discontent simply because we pay for playing this game, (it's not F2P you know), like any other service or product.

We value what the game has offered us but, it's time for the formula to be changed. We just want it to be improved and hope for it to take a different direction than just going up and down, which has been the same ride from 2.0 and how long has it been? 2 years already. The foundation has been laid, a lot of us stood and bear with it and the promise of new changes are nowhere to be found. Sadly, if a restaurant offers you the same hamburger with no extra ingredient or variant guess what happens? You will like it for a time but then eventually you will get bored of the same flavor/taste in your mouth if you eat it everyday.

[DracotheDragon]

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ok starting with the reply to me, at what point did i say i, myself, didn't like this game.
all i did was use your list and added the Adverage views on reddit the forums and in games seen as the general view

also playing another game, *looks at MGSV* i have, and it is exciting to have something other then a monotonous grind for a while, though i still play FFXIV a lot.

after reading a bunch of your posts, you genuinely have no clue what is being said or why, you mention narrow view before shoving your head into your own world where your view is the only correct view, thus you have the narrow view you claim to dislike, plus you have said you do not do end game content, and that is what everyone has been giving feedback on, that is like a vegan telling the chief he is cooking meat wrong, it is extremely asinine to beleave that just because you don't do the end game content everyone who is providing feedback dose not care, what to know what someone who dosnt care would do, they wouldn't say anything and go to another game.

but no, your going to stay in your own fantasy different to everyone else where you actively do no wish to do end game content leaving yourself in a position where you telling us we are wrong is in itself wrong, if you have no clue what end game is like then you don't truly have the right to say.

now please either do some endgame content and learn why we are providing the feedback or kindly leave your own feedback on the things YOU have done and YOU like without assuming that everyone in the game has the same view as yourself.


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i apologies to everyone else for that rudeness but let me continue onto the main post,

with heavenward though it has brought much to the table i have to truly see what 3.1 will bring for the end game, but one thing i dislike and i know my friends dislike is the 2 dungeon roulettes, it always seems to be one of them (in most people's cases nevereep) and that surely makes the dungeons feel tedious when there is no extra virally in the mix when you only seem to get the same dungeon over and over, another thing is with Void ark i hope this bridges the gap between Alex normal which is extremely easy and Alex savage which even the devs have said is compared to SCoB savage and FCoB, currently unless you are someone who enjoys every last aspect in the game i truly feel that there isn't much to do, and what is put in has become tedious after only a short time, i hope we do get some more fun content in the future and soon, because i feel that 3.0 is now reaching the point where it needs the patch otherwise it will be like 2.5 and over stay it's welcome.