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    the best rotation i know for red scrips when you have the ideal stats (115 from unbuffed methodical) is actually:

    UC + SM + Impulsive -> Impulsive -> Impulsive ->
    ................(if at least 1 Impulsive gave you buff): UC + SM + Methodical.
    ...................................................(if all failed): UC + DE + Methodical

    In average this gives slightly more red scrips than the other method and you have a ~20% chance to gather with 530+ collectability so you can farm for counterfoils as well while doing your weekly cap.
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    Last edited by Alexiell; 09-09-2015 at 08:59 AM.

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    Hayward Timberwolf
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    It's possible to get 530+ with the Discerning Eye/Methodical Appraisalx3 method, though it isn't as surefire as the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    It's possible to get 530+ with the Discerning Eye/Methodical Appraisalx3 method, though it isn't as surefire as the other.
    that caps at 516 collectability (115 x 1.5 = 172; 172 x 3 = 516). with RNG it's possible that a 0-3 of them come out to 530, but that's RNG talking.
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    J'karr Nbolo
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    Here's how to guarantee yourself two Chysal Greens with enough rating.

    Methodical, methodical, Utmost, Single mind, Methodical, Utmost, Discerning eye, Methodical.

    Gather two.
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    Alya Mizar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    It's possible to get 530+ with the Discerning Eye/Methodical Appraisalx3 method, though it isn't as surefire as the other.
    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoTechie View Post
    that caps at 516 collectability (115 x 1.5 = 172; 172 x 3 = 516). with RNG it's possible that a 0-3 of them come out to 530, but that's RNG talking.
    I get in the 520s more often than in the 510s, and quite rarely a 530 or better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushWookie View Post
    Here's how to guarantee yourself two Chysal Greens with enough rating.

    Methodical, methodical, Utmost, Single mind, Methodical, Utmost, Discerning eye, Methodical.

    Gather two.
    this equates to: 10 item wear methodical (115), 10 item wear methodical (115), 5 item wear methodical (115), 5 item wear buffed methodical (172) or 115 + 115 + 115 + 172 = 517. As Shadygrove mentions above, that means actual gathers are more often in the 510-520 range, and rarely anywhere near 530+.

    The most promising rotation, and the one I use is this one, that I've seen before on reddit:
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexiell View Post
    the best rotation i know for red scrips when you have the ideal stats (115 from unbuffed methodical) is actually:

    UC + SM + Impulsive -> Impulsive -> Impulsive ->
    ................(if at least 1 Impulsive gave you buff): UC + SM + Methodical.
    ...................................................(if all failed): UC + DE + Methodical

    In average this gives slightly more red scrips than the other method and you have a ~20% chance to gather with 530+ collectability so you can farm for counterfoils as well while doing your weekly cap.
    As he mentions, it has a higher expected payout (if you understand the statistical term)for gathers and it averages around 474-481 collectability, but when you get two impulsive procs will be in the neighborhood of 522+ (decent chance of getting 530+ collectability... maybe 40%?), and three procs will bring it to 583 collectability. As long as one of the impulsive appraisals proc, you are guaranteed 3 gathers of 470+ with the SM (no matter which one proc'd).



    Lastly, as a general tip: it's better to gather as many collectables as you can at a lower tier than it is to sacrifice gather chance for a higher tier.
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    Last edited by TechnoTechie; 09-14-2015 at 02:18 PM.

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    Just used my rotation and got 530 and 531 on two Chysal Greens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushWookie View Post
    Just used my rotation and got 530 and 531 on two Chysal Greens.
    again, a few instances of it working doesn't mean always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoTechie View Post
    again, a few instances of it working doesn't mean always.
    50% of the time at least.

    Works for me.

    I guess the only thing left for you to do is try it. I've got 695 perception BTW.
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    694 perception, sorry.
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