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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    I know a few people that have cleared A3S and their attitude stinks. The problem is not clearing the "hard" stuff in the game is the post attitude they acquired. They become (not the majority) mute , rude don't participate in fc activities ls chats being helpful etc. Why is that? Because somehow they put in their deluded brain that they are better than others cause they managed to cleared something that others haven't.

    Savage is not hard is just a question of remembering the fight. They fights are like a dance you follow it and you get it sorted.
    Alex savage is not hard. I watched Youtube kills!!!
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    I know a few people that have cleared A3S and their attitude stinks. The problem is not clearing the "hard" stuff in the game is the post attitude they acquired. They become (not the majority) mute , rude don't participate in fc activities ls chats being helpful etc. Why is that? Because somehow they put in their deluded brain that they are better than others cause they managed to cleared something that others haven't.

    Savage is not hard is just a question of remembering the fight. They fights are like a dance you follow it and you get it sorted.
    The people who pay the most effort into clearing these fights are actually very friendly people most of the time. These are the people who didn't use any sort of guides and figured out the mechanics on their own. Every single Savage fight is hard if you didn't use guides.

    And like Layla put it for A4S: “Thirteen minutes of eight players working together in sync and maintaining their individual responsibilities as well is probably more taxing than people realize” It's not just about memory, but as you don't seem to have any experience in Savage, you don't know better.
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    Last edited by Sove92; 09-11-2015 at 08:30 PM.

  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Savage is not hard is just a question of remembering the fight. They fights are like a dance you follow it and you get it sorted.
    "Ahaha Hahahahaha Hoi"

    Its always funny, that people without any first hand experience, write down comments like this.

    If you think its that easy at the current gear progression, go in and see yourself how wrong you are.

    When I look into your achievements, you never have finished any coil without massive overgear, echo and nerfs. A3S and A4S are more like Savage Coil. You've never finished a single Savage Coil Turn.
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    If that is the way you communicate ingame about your view what others have done, it is not really a surprise you get back this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    They become (not the majority) mute , rude don't participate in fc activities ls chats being helpful etc.
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    Last edited by KarstenS; 09-11-2015 at 09:53 PM.

    Videos mit der Hauptgeschichte und ausgewählten Nebenquestreihen (deutsch): https://www.youtube.com/user/KSVideo100

  4. #94
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    Mature Rudlum and FC chat:

    Mature Rudlum: "Hey guys, i know you cleared a3s. Could you help me to clear it? It's an easy fight and know the strat"

    FC members: ...

    Mature Rudlum: "Elitist!!!"
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Savage is not hard is just a question of remembering the fight. They fights are like a dance you follow it and you get it sorted.
    Maybe you can say that for A1S and A2S, but you sure never step a foot in A3S.
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  6. #96
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    Let me ask, what logical reason is there to nerf the Savage version of these fights? They were built specifically to challenge a group's max skill level. If people are bringing up the gear excuse, I am very sure SE will have alternative gear to obtain around the same ilvl or better when new raid content comes out. The normal mode is there for many reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Let me ask, what logical reason is there to nerf the Savage version of these fights? They were built specifically to challenge a group's max skill level.
    You could have applied the same argument to the first round of Extreme Primal fights though, and they still had the echo enabled once they weren't current content.

    They were also implemented to challenge a group's skill level (though not to the same extent as Savage), there was an existing easier version of each of the fights (with a similar jump in difficulty), and they had equivalent equipment available from other sources even before their implementation.
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    Last edited by Ibi; 09-12-2015 at 01:56 AM.

  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibi View Post
    You could have applied the same argument to the first round of Extreme Primal fights though, and they still had the echo enabled once they weren't current content.

    They were also implemented to challenge a group's skill level (though not to the same extent as Savage), there was an existing easier version of each of the fights (with a similar jump in difficulty), and they had equivalent equipment available from other sources even before their implementation.
    The reason to nerf those primal was they were necessary to kill to get the access to new primals extremes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
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    Each to their own opinion tbh. You give me a bunch of people who are willing to spend a day trying to clear Alex S and it will be clear certain arms. My point is very simple, get the people get the time and you do it. As simple as that. Alex Savage is NOT hard and does not need nerffing. But sadly there ain't enough people wanting to spend their time to try it cause they just Give up after 4 hours. I'm not here to argue but to give my very OWN personal opinion from my very OWN experience from what ive seen since coil. People become deluded (not all of them) that's why we have a little bunch of morons who called themselves elitists......, which is sad. If my opinion hurts well is tough. And at the end of the day people just won't like my comments regarding this issue cause they know it's true and tbh I couldn't care less someone had to say it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Did they nerf Coil savage?
    yes, by adding more item levels that did not sync and crafted gear, and then even more with undersized party
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