Tanks, please use strength gear.. :(

[Freyyy]

( ie if you have all melee DPS what reason is there to pull large groups?)

This "melees are shit for AoE" cliches are quite old now. MNKs are beasts in AoE now and DRGs are pretty good too. Just NIN sucks a bit. It's always worth it to do big pulls, even with double NIN, it just takes longer, but it's still faster than doing small pulls and single targetting one mob at a time.

[karateorangutang]

This "melees are shit for AoE" cliches are quite old now. MNKs are beasts in AoE now and DRGs are pretty good too. Just NIN sucks a bit. It's always worth it to do big pulls, even with double NIN, it just takes longer, but it's still faster than doing small pulls and single targetting one mob at a time.

It's the general attitude, how many times have you pulled with two melee DPS only to see single target rotations? For me its quite a bit. Hence why I have to change the way I do things every. single. dungeon.

I get it too, the AoE rotations on most of the DPS jobs are pretty boring.

[NamoNanamo]

This "melees are shit for AoE" cliches are quite old now. MNKs are beasts in AoE now and DRGs are pretty good too. Just NIN sucks a bit. It's always worth it to do big pulls, even with double NIN, it just takes longer, but it's still faster than doing small pulls and single targetting one mob at a time.

Yesterday in Fractal, I was with my Drg and one friends Monk. The tank Pld refuses to do large pull cause "we sucks" in AoE . Kinda funny, we were all Ilvl 190+ except the Monk. Finally, he kicks us. (the healer was stupid too).

It's kinda frustating, he didn't even try.


ANd for Whm, I really think they can outdps Pld on Fractal. And outDPs bad Warrior/Drk.
Pom+holy+assize+swiftcast and aeroIII. I'm sure.
Now, Whm lose a lot of dps against Boss.

Anw, I'm pulling the same number of dps if the tank is vita or Str. The only problem is when the tank is new, bad stuff, and don't use cd on time.