According to the survey, an equal number of people play the tank and healer roles

[Arkann]

Well I sure am glad you super leet tanks avoid DF. With such inflated egos I couldn't see anything else on the screen.

[Kaurie]

Reasons to avoid Tanking the DF:
- Over eager DPS pulling more mobs.
- "bored" healers pulling more mobs.
- GOGOGO FASTER FASTER WHERES YOUR STR GEAR NOOB HURRY UP WHY ARENT YOU PULLING MORE.
- DPS ignoring marks and/or hitting any mob except that which the tank is focusing on.
- DPS and Healers going to town on mobs with every cooldown blown when I'm trying to gather up the pack into a neat little ball.
- People that frequently knockback the Tanks target.
- Healers that put their personal DPS above keeping the tank alive.
- Healers dropping Regens before a pull.

Reasons to avoid healing the DF:
-Tanks that pull more than they can reasonably handle.
-Tanks that never use Cooldowns.
-DPS standing in the fire. (Tanks too sometimes)

Reasons to avoid playing DPS in the DF:
-Tanks that struggle to hold enmity (usually only a problem when overgearing the Tank).

I can see why Tanks avoid the DF. Can you?

eh..

For tanks:
Regen, right click it off?
At 180 ilvl, tanks should wear str in expert roulette, I understand vit when closer to 145 though.
Please don't mark as a tank, not useful since Brayflox normal (except raids)
If both DPS and heals are pulling more mobs, you're probably pulling too slowly (as a PLD SCH and SMN, I've only seen this happen once since expansion hit)
Haven't seen a knockback on the target since level like 15

For healers:
You could easily add more here, such as people yelling at you for not DPSing or for DPSing etc. However, again, that's not a very common occurence

DPS:
I'd like to add, tanks that pull 2 mobs at a time when you're a SMN

[Ladon]

Okay mister cool snflake. None of that as anything to do with you being a tank, just an elitist. Just as many dps and healers are as antisocial I'm sure.

Oh man, you are missing toxic, it's 2015 and whiny Paladin or this would have been a perfectly acceptable OF post.

Here:

Okay mister cool toxic snflake. None of that as anything to do with you being a tank, just an elitist. It's 2015, just as many dps and healers are as antisocial I'm sure.

-Whiny Paladin

[Izsha]

I tank full time in my fc for savage, primals, maps etc. I'm on war 24/7. When I do my roulettes I go on drg because it's the only chance I have to play it. I'll only go on war for roulettes if I go with a friend or 3 from my circles.

Also i can watch Netflix and dps in loldungeons. On tank 8 have to give it my full attention or risk killing everyone. Sometimes you just gotta relax and dps jobs you can function with a much lower level of concentration.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I'm guessing it's because a lot of tanks are Diva-Princesses that feel that going into DF will match them up with people that are beneath them. Or, they enter instances and drop immediately when it's not a dungeon of their liking (also a Diva-Princess mentality).

[Moonfox]

I´ll be straight I use DF almost everyday (heal). Most of my runs have been decent to smooth- not comparable to runs with my static or fc but good enough to get it done. I dont really expect more than that. If you´ve ever done any task with random people you dont expect things to go perfectly well either. Before i started on FFXIV i played LoL so nothing I´ve heard was as toxic as what I´m used to.
I´m fine with everything whether a tank wants to have vit or str acc - given they know how to use their cooldowns (and yes i do like to dps while i heal). Most of the time I just try to treat others as I´d like to be treated myself. We were all bad at some point - mostly because we didnt know better. If people want help it´s great (because for me at least it´s not a waste of time to help someone out). If they dont or if they are jerks - well that´s too bad but it wont ruin my day. Most duties can be finished anyway. Can´t really change people only how you react to it.

[Arabian_Wolf]

He quite literally posted "UNCONSTRUCTIVELY CRITICIZE" and you straight up ignored it, trying to change the tone of what he said.

Thanks for clearing it for him,

And I agree with everything you said, that's why I just troll such players till we get near the end of the dungoen and just flatout vote dismiss them.

[Sylve]

eh..

For tanks:
Regen, right click it off?
At 180 ilvl, tanks should wear str in expert roulette, I understand vit when closer to 145 though.
Please don't mark as a tank, not useful since Brayflox normal (except raids)
If both DPS and heals are pulling more mobs, you're probably pulling too slowly (as a PLD SCH and SMN, I've only seen this happen once since expansion hit)
Haven't seen a knockback on the target since level like 15

Sure, let me click off that Regen the WHM just threw on me the split second i provoked the pack. Oops! Too late, the WHM is already getting munched.
Ill wear my Warriors VIT set at i190 if i damn well please. With 25k HP, the Healer can safely DPS for much longer than if i was rolling about with 14k (A common occurrence for my AST who consequently gets 2 - 3 Gravity bombs per pack if Im lucky because every 2 seconds the Tank needs a Benefic II spam or he dies even with 3 Regen effects on him).
Gravity/Holy spam kills a trash pack faster than a STR Tank will.
I mark my primary target or targets with specific debuffs that are detrimental to me (Such as Vulnerabilties in Neverreap), if it has nothing threatening or I'm planning to AoE, I wont mark. Its that simple. To say its useless is quite ignorant. if i can take less damage as a Tank, why the hell shouldn't I? Especially if all it took was a split second to mark my target.
I'm sorry these 12 mobs were not enough for you, Go ahead and pull that whole other room while I drop every emergency cooldown I've got, including Elixirs, because clearly I'm not pulling enough.
Thats funny, Just had a Machinist in my Neverreap who hit his knockback every 30 seconds without fail. So grats on never running into anyone who does that for you.

[Kaurie]

Sure, let me click off that Regen the WHM just threw on me the split second i provoked the pack. Oops! Too late, the WHM is already getting munched.
Ill wear my Warriors VIT set at i190 if i damn well please. With 25k HP, the Healer can safely DPS for much longer than if i was rolling about with 14k (A common occurrence for my AST who consequently gets 2 - 3 Gravity bombs per pack if Im lucky because every 2 seconds the Tank needs a Benefic II spam or he dies even with 3 Regen effects on him).
Gravity/Holy spam kills a trash pack faster than a STR Tank will.
I mark my primary target or targets with specific debuffs that are detrimental to me (Such as Vulnerabilties in Neverreap), if it has nothing threatening or I'm planning to AoE, I wont mark. Its that simple. To say its useless is quite ignorant. if i can take less damage as a Tank, why the hell shouldn't I? Especially if all it took was a split second to mark my target.
I'm sorry these 12 mobs were not enough for you, Go ahead and pull that whole other room while I drop every emergency cooldown I've got, including Elixirs, because clearly I'm not pulling enough.
Thats funny, Just had a Machinist in my Neverreap who hit his knockback every 30 seconds without fail. So grats on never running into anyone who does that for you.

Do as you like, but STR WAR does insane damage. Healer can still DPS even if you are wearing STR. The added damage from the extra hp is less.

Anyway, I don't really want to go over it all, but meh+


If you like, as a SMN i can run in and say I will only cast Ruin, because I want to play how I damn well please.

[Claire_Pendragon]

Well I sure am glad you super leet tanks avoid DF. With such inflated egos I couldn't see anything else on the screen.

Usually the DPS are too busy tunnel visioning their abilities to dodge AoEs, or too busy tunnel visioning Netflix, to watch the game.
So it's quite surprising anyone was even able to notice our massive egos.