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  1. #11
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    I think it was because those that use Echo was protected by the light or whatever, but the WOL had his light taken away by Midgardsormr. Then when he, WOL, Moen and Minfilla are in the solar, he sees Moenbrya attack and knows she is the bigger threat so zap her. Maybe at this point in time, he still thought that Minfilla was still protected by the light and ONLY the WOL had it taken away from him, so naturally he just kidnaps Minfilla and Minfillia than becomes like Princess Peach...getting captured all the time
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by PogueX View Post
    I think it was because those that use Echo was protected by the light or whatever, but the WOL had his light taken away by Midgardsormr. Then when he, WOL, Moen and Minfilla are in the solar, he sees Moenbrya attack and knows she is the bigger threat so zap her. Maybe at this point in time, he still thought that Minfilla was still protected by the light and ONLY the WOL had it taken away from him, so naturally he just kidnaps Minfilla and Minfillia than becomes like Princess Peach...getting captured all the time
    Nabriales could feel that the WoL wasn't blessed anymore, so there's no reason to think he thought Minfillia had it. Minfillia is an Echo wielder that's spoken directly to Hydaelyn, which presumably makes her a very rare and valuable asset for whatever they're doing.
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    Its bit different. If you go back to the first cutscene where you first see Hydaelyn you see other people circling around Hydaelyn. Koji Fox spoke about it in the interview at Pax East this year saying that Hydealyn has a number of people working for her. After all she embodies the whole world. What makes the WoL special is that the WoL is Hydaelyn's champion. Only the WoL has the Blessing of Light which is different to the Echo.

    The echo is a special power though. It seems likely that most of the abilities the Ascians have in regards to their immortality and such are due to their own mastery of the echo. That makes echo users quite potentially powerful. I suspect that Elidibus sees value in that, potentially even as new recruits, and hence why he doesn't want the other Ascians killing Minfilia or us.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Doesn't Elidibus say that if we knew how to use the true power of the Echo, we'd be more cooperative with the Ascians? Can't remember the 2.1 dialogue all too well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Doesn't Elidibus say that if we knew how to use the true power of the Echo, we'd be more cooperative with the Ascians? Can't remember the 2.1 dialogue all too well.
    I interpret that more as bad guy hubris-that everyone would agree with them if they were only just as intelligence.
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  6. #16
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Doesn't Elidibus say that if we knew how to use the true power of the Echo, we'd be more cooperative with the Ascians? Can't remember the 2.1 dialogue all too well.
    Yeah, he says that. Also, I think it was in 1.0 when Minfilia had alot of Echo users she says that in their journey to discover more about the echo, these echo users discovered something terrible that they don't want to talk about.

    I am starting to think that Hydaelyn isn't all that she's cracked up to be. Especially since an Archon/Echo user in the past joined "black hooded figures" and then there's the WoD which might be Derplander
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    Who's Derplander supposed to be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirPhoebos View Post
    Who's Derplander supposed to be?
    In the videos for the game he's the warrior/dragoon who represents the player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    In the videos for the game he's the warrior/dragoon who represents the player.
    I had high hopes that the vision of the archbishop at the end indicated who might, indeed, be the WoD.
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Honestly, even with the information we have now and our character's current capabilities (not counting any further possible lessons about breaking the chains of reality), the Echo is pretty twisted.

    You can go into people's heads against their will and look into their memories.

    That alone is kinda, you know, inappropriate.
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