WHM gear is BUTT UGLY

[NorthernLadMSP]

Euh... you didn't check the Astro gear, do you ?

You're very lucky with your glamour compare to us.

Uh, what? The AST gear absolutely blows away the ill-fitting WHM robe and nun hood.

[Whiteroom]

I love that it gives off a very church like feel which feels like a perfect fit for Ishgards theme. I actually really like how it looks on men.

I'm a huge fan of the robes in this game since they have a very serious and classical fantasy feel to them.

Tbh, I dont think anything but the head piece gives off a church feel. I really like the rest of the set for females. Better "churchie" stuff would be The Vaults set, also I cant remeber but maybe Dusk Vigils.

I think the WHM top will look great if the triangles stay red when you dye it jet black. Hopefully they dont turn white, as that would definatly steer it towards a nuns attire.

[FOOLK1LLAH]

Most Ninja gear looks like pirate attire. I would rather have a staff with boobs on it than a ninja who looks like he belongs in Neverland

[Cariborne]

The only thing I don't like about WHM Eso set is the Helmet. The only thing I don't like about the Scholar Eso set is the Helmet, and I don't like the AST set at all on a Male.

[Exodus-E]

I really cannot see how this



is clearly modeled after this

Hey I said "modeled after" and not "exactly like".
Otherwise, the hood would've had those kitty ears motif (which would've been more fitting IMO).

[Keramory]

As a giant male elf I...cant stand the armor. At the same time though, like...we are the nuns of the game. No one hits that description better <.<

I like the staff but at the same time I wish it had more effects on it then some small red glowy stuff.

[Zorafin]

Of all the...

Our Esoteric gear makes us look like nuns.

Are you complaining that the gear meant to exemplify the style of a class which is designed to be a nun makes you look like a nun? Are you upset that the paladin esoteric gear makes you look like a knight? Are you upset that the machinist gear makes you look like a steampunk engineer?
The gear is designed to make you look like a white mage. White mages have always looked like that. If you don't want to look like a nun, there's a bunch of different armor to get.

Head gear: We're not nuns.

Yes we are. Our class archetype even came from, straight up, Cleric. Down to white mages originally using hammers (and still did in FFXI), like warrior clerics did when they protected travelers. I'm glad we're finally starting to look the part, though I wish we had more holy attack spells to show for it.

They have made some different ones. Prototype robe of healing has no red or white in it. It has an upper body that is almost armor like. It has a more manly feel to it even if it's a robe.

Of course not, that's not artifact armor. Those are robes meant to make you look like a healer, designed around Alexander's aesthetics. Why would that have the white mage look?
I don't get any of your arguments.

That being said, if you think it's ugly, then fine. I personally love it, and it's fine if you don't.

[mp-please]

class which is designed to be a nun makes you look like a nun?

Not true, the whole white mage and white magic concept was always treated as a class related to nature, more like a druid than a priest. Unlike dragon quest, FF series is known for always treating empires and religious organizations as evil and something to stop.

The outfit was simply designed like that to fulfill one of the community long asked requests, hoods on WHM. And since this update is heavily surrounded by ishgard church lore they just sneaked the hood as a coif to stick with the theme. Having a normal hood would also make hair clip through everywhere so they sneaked it in as a coif, kept it lore and update friendly and avoided hair issue.

[basketofseals]

Hey I said "modeled after" and not "exactly like".
Otherwise, the hood would've had those kitty ears motif (which would've been more fitting IMO).

But I don't feel like it is. The only thing they share are a hood and cloak, which aren't unique visuals by any means. The cat ears are pretty big considering they're the only aesthetic that the sage class has carried between games.

Also the sage isn't an upgraded white mage. It's more like an upgraded red mage with powerful black and white magics.

[Zorafin]

Not true, the whole white mage and white magic concept was always treated as a class related to nature, more like a druid than a priest.

Okay, in this game, sure. And that's what always bugged me about it. I wanted something like WoW's holy priest, which used almost exclusively holy spells. But they threw in that nature spot... which I like by itself, but I'd so much rather be using holy spells.
At least let me spam water spells instead of rock spells.

Unlike dragon quest, FF series is known for always treating empires and religious organizations as evil and something to stop.

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damn it, you're right. I'm trying to come up with a contrary example, but it's not happening.
Regardless, the theme was that those in power were dangerous and posed a threat. It wasn't that empires or religions themselves were bad. Mysidia was very religious, for instance. They were just so powerless that they were inconsequential.
I think the theme of white mage being a cleric was always there, though. They were obviously taken from the D&D cleric class, as was DQ's cleric class. But the core concept of the class may have diminished over the years.

The outfit was simply designed like that to fulfill one of the community long asked requests, hoods on WHM.

It was this reason that I loved the... cowl? when leveling whm. I'd always HQ a set for myself and dye it white, and wore nothing else until cap. I don't know why we don't just do this.

So, how much longer until I can post replies like this without having to edit my post?