Neighborhood watch RMT style

[Dynamis]

Deleted due to forum negativity. I give up.

[DoctorMog]

Edit: (Now that you finished the post XD)

I just thought of a FFXIV joke:

Q: How do you piss off the FFXIV forum community?
A: "We will look into it"

ZING!

For serious though.

Answer to your post:
http://support.na.square-enix.com/contacttop.php?id=902

Scroll to the bottom and report away good sir.

SE already has a "special task force" and a website for players to make reports.

Good thought though. ^^

[Zenaku]

That does noting don't waste your time reporting. Every sense STF took over banning players it became useless to report. Before the STF i report 3-5 fishing bots in north San d'Oria within a few min i talked to a GM and within 1hour all the bots was ban and never saw them again. Try that now with the STF it may take months by then the RMT have trade all the gil and cash in there money pointless there really not doing anything on a f2p that also a issue here.

You make a call to a GM all you going to get is a text saying report this too A: Website saying B this. no one really talk to you.

I wonder if your Char is stuck on a spot would they even move you lol

[Leknaat]

I wonder if your Char is stuck on a spot would they even move you lol

A GM tried to move me when the area around camp glory was corrupted. He/she was really nice and tried their best to help me. In the end I had to copy dat files from another computer ... ^^;

As for RMT... I think it's a weird slippery slope for them. Like how do you distinguish between RMT and people that have a second account and farm/sell transfer stuff to their main accounts?

This was years ago and I'm not too sure how TRUE the story was but the person that told me this story was supposedly threatened with a suspension for "Entrapment". He was a fellow camper at Poisonhand back in the day.

He supposedly confronted one of the RMT that camped Poisonhand and gotten him to admit that he was RMT. Obviously this is something that should be reported right....? When he told the RMT he was going to report him... The RMT in question arrogantly said to 'try it' and that SE would do nothing about it.

So supposedly he did report the RMT and got threatened with suspension for trying to entrap the RMT....

Like I said, not too sure how TRUE the story was but if it's the case...... I think a neighborhood watch would definitely fail... ^^

[Zenaku]

A GM tried to move me when the area around camp glory was corrupted. He/she was really nice and tried their best to help me. In the end I had to copy dat files from another computer ... ^^;

As for RMT... I think it's a weird slippery slope for them. Like how do you distinguish between RMT and people that have a second account and farm/sell transfer stuff to their main accounts?

This was years ago and I'm not too sure how TRUE the story was but the person that told me this story was supposedly threatened with a suspension for "Entrapment". He was a fellow camper at Poisonhand back in the day.

He supposedly confronted one of the RMT that camped Poisonhand and gotten him to admit that he was RMT. Obviously this is something that should be reported right....? When he told the RMT he was going to report him... The RMT in question arrogantly said to 'try it' and that SE would do nothing about it.

So supposedly he did report the RMT and got threatened with suspension for trying to entrap the RMT....

Like I said, not too sure how TRUE the story was but if it's the case...... I think a neighborhood watch would definitely fail... ^^

OH i can believe that story for sure, Some of the ENG GM in FFXI did not even know anything about FFXI. Some knew a lot i report a person for camping and getting joytoy NM 5-6times a row and selling it from 8-15mil. The GM told me he allow to sell whatever item he get from a NM i told him "So if i get VE and sold the item for 5mil i'm allow? He told me if someone want to buy the Valkurm Emperor item from you then sure. So pretty much that GM knew about the game and pretty much told me it allow to sell items i thought it was not allow in the TOS lol.

Also if a JP report you, the jp GM are harder on the person then a ENG one at least that what i been told by many people who get report for /check on a JP player which i found funny that you could get ban for 72hours for /check a JP 1-4times o.o even if you was spamming the person that still dumb reason.

Anyways i hope the GM and STF get better when this goes p2p and they ban all the bots.

[Chocobits]

1. A group of players with weird names on autofollow doesn't necessarily make them RMT. Some people use multiple accounts to quickly gather gil or to advance their character more quickly. If I had multiple accounts, I'd name all my characters by bashing my face into the keyboard just to tick people off.

2. Are they harming your gameplay experience? What does them running around on autofollow have to do with you? Are they stealing your mobs or items? Are they harassing you? Or is your dentist just complaining because the very possibility of RMT existing is causing you to grind your teeth into dust?

3. Why aren't you laughing at players that are sad enough to purchase gil? Gil's not exactly a rare commodity. I have this theory that the people that are most vocal about RMT are the ones that purchase gil, as if to decry the exploitation of their laziness.

[Konachibi]

How do you determine who is R.M.T and who isn't?

This isn't R.M.T

This IS R.M.T (Or a Linkshell full of Lalafell)

Our LS knows the locations of most R.M.T groups now and what time they come online, we even go to pay them a visit but they never speak XD

Most famous one is Haha King and his group of female Lalafell that all hang around Camp Bloodshore around 10pm U.K time, he's the only one in the group that is male and doesn't have purple eyes

They don't do any harm though, really they're more like cute little NPCs that don't speak and follow each other around. I'd never consider buying Gil nor would I say what they're doing is right, but in a huge immersive world, it's kinda nice to see them all plodding along day after day doing the same thing, sort of like having a pet that requires no maintenance, no matter how bad things get, you can always rely on them being there to make you smile and giggle.

[Chocobits]

1. Yeah, that's obvious and I think most people realize that. You're saying nothing new here. There are however instances of this that need to be looked into.

2. Yes it does harm my gameplay experience when the economy is effected by mass RMT activity.

3. You're theory show's your real point of posting. You just want to belittle someone. Your urge to say something negative about someone is so great that you'll even argue for RMT activity.

What are they doing to the economy? Examples? Which crafts are they destroying? Which HNMs are they monopolizing for gil drops? You can't really give examples because the current system discourages transaction tracking. So, out of sight, out of mind right? If you can't demonstrate tangible effects of real money trading, it's a non-issue.

The truth of the matter, as I've said before, is that RMT activity is a sign of a healthy game. The lack of it in FFXIV speaks volumes. I've also said that some serious RMT activity would actually benefit our skewed economy by creating an abundance of crafting materials. With an influx of RMT, there would be a healthier crafting system with materials being much more accessible to everyone. The downside to that would be a more tightly controlled economy as in FFXI, where the parts of a recipe are usually more expensive than a finished NQ product. But that will happen anyway once enough players join and level crafts of their own. If I can purchase stack of meat mithkabobs for 2k each, I'd almost certainly say that's not to my detriment. If they don't mind making 100 gil profit from a craft, I don't begrudge them that. Woe to the rest of the crafting community that have a hard limit placed on how much they can inflate the economy - not.

[viion]

just because you say its RMT doesnt exactly mean it is.

at the early days I had 7 buddy keys including my own, i made a char on each one to do leves for my main, i'd just start then go do them on ma main, the 5 chars were all mithras but i was creative with names, tho at the start as everyone was low it looked like 7 regular chars when i controlled all.

also STF dont do much right now and a ingame report would be abused, like it is in every game that has one.

[Eugenics]

Neighborhood watch, also known as nosey bastards that need to mind their own business. I for one will never grass/snitch on anyone. If SE can't do the job then we are ******.

That's my thoughts.