This attitude is cyclic, it's higher on weekends and in the evenings. Noting, this corresponds well to when kids are out of school...
This attitude is cyclic, it's higher on weekends and in the evenings. Noting, this corresponds well to when kids are out of school...
And adults out of work. So... Ummm... Yeah... :X
Anyways, I really don't see any of this toxic attitude people are describing. I do see people instaleaving when something doesn't work out, but that's about it. Usually talking is limited to "Hi" at the start and "gg" at the end.
One of the bigger problems is the fact that you rather remember a bad run than you remember a good run without any problems. A good run is over in no time while awful runs drag on forever, mostly having unneccessary discussions and people you'll never forget about due to their really bad behaviour.
I'd say I've had way more good experiences in DF, but sadly, I remember every run in which I felt uncomfortable.
There are lots of nice players out there, willing to help and friendly. But it is how it is: Salty and unfriendly people are louder than everyone else, so you will always notice them...
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I have never encountered any players behaving badly. So either I am extremely lucky or something else is afoot hehe
But when I do meet jerk players, like when I played WOW, I simply wouldnt let them get to me, and I tried to lighten the mood, and it usually worked![]()
This sounds like people. It sucks, but having grown up around some very similar people outside of video games you kind of learn when to smile and bite your tongue. Don't escalate it. You'll be away from them soon enough.
Same thing in retail. We had everything from guys who'd follow women around to women who'd scream at employees for not having the right flavor of ice cream.
Didn't read the whole thread.
I used to quit my groups over this a lot. To the point where i figured it would be better for me to just play the hand i am delt. Just assume you get a bad group and learn to deal with the bull.
When life gives you lemons, cry yourself to sleep, and tell all your friends.
I've been around since 1.0 and I have noticed a shift in the way people play (attitude wise) during that time - I feel that a majority of the players in this game are nice people - but there only has to be that handful that makes everything very hard on the rest of the players. Personally, I feel that DF is like money - a necessary evil. It's a very toxic place where there is really no punishment for being a bad player, and I don't mean bad as in doesn't know what to do - especially when it's a players first time. I mean bad as in rude, disrespectful, cussing etc. Players have no way to block people like that, no blacklist, no way to make sure you never have to party with them again - Yet the way the game is set up players have to use it at some point.
I have more good experiences in DF than bad - or at least decent to the point I can't complain. But the bad seem to stick with people more, so it seems like the DF is more toxic than it is. I have had good experiences, and bad.
Yesterday seemed a mess in A4 - no matter what group I got people were all over the place, or people weren't doing what they should do. Had this one DPS who was just being rude and ended up telling us all the "F Off" and this was after I had to explain the whole get the adds who's covering A B C - Because I said I had B and he and another DPS kept fighting B with me and letting the A and C adds just run everywhere and kill healers whent he DPS covering A was quarantined.
I also had a shouting match going on in A4 between a DPS and a SMN because the SMN wouldn't raise. At first the SMN was saying he didn't have raise, I think we all thought he was joking but it got to name calling between them and became very clear the lvl 60 SMN did not know he could raise people after he told him to show him where he had raise - thinking he did not and was right. So I politely told him, that it was called Resurrection and he received it at lvl 22, and that he should really keep it on himself because they were considered back up raisers in some ways. All the sudden he just left the party after realizing this - I think he was embarrassed. >.<
But at the same time we have good runs - went into hard mode and the tank was new. My friend and I were the healer and SMN and there was another SMN. I told the new tank just have fun with it and if they have any questions just ask, that it wasn't a big deal and just be comfortable. I don't know if the other SMN just had to leave or didn't like the speed we were going - which I thought was fast because two SMN's just melt stuff. But all the sudden right after the first boss the other SMN just leaves for no reason - but they didn't say anything the whole run anyway. WE ended up getting a really nice bard and finished up the run super fast with no death and just telling the other tank basics they asked for and then all Congratulated them on being a good tank and the first time win! It was a super nice run~!
But over all - I have seen a drop in this community kindness wise - but I still don't think that it's awful. Sometimes I get nothing but blah parties all day and I question my sanity, lol. Other days I feel I am very lucky because I have nice parties or meet very great people. Like yesterday we went into Dusk Vigil and my queue popped - I was with two friends and says 'sorry gimmie just a sec' because my washer was done and had to put the stuff int he dryer. So they all started mandervilling - the tank that we didn't know declared this the best party ever and then we jetted though the dungeon super fast, mandervilling for every boss. I loved it and it was great fun! I love when people have fun and play for the enjoyment - not to force people to conform to their rules or had a bad attitude!
By the way we ended up killing the last boss on the grounds that he would not manderville with us. XD
Last edited by KaiKatzchen; 09-10-2015 at 01:00 AM.
You're right and thank you for further proving my point.
The duty finder itself is a brilliant idea by the game. Well it is there for everyone like us who may be new or experienced with the game to use.. For this case, if 3 out of 4 people in the group voted to dismiss me, there's clearly something wrong with how I run the dungeon. Not to forget you progress from the simplest dungeon like Satasha, it is expected that you should at least get to practice and learn how to play your role better as you progress. Just start with a simple greetings before the run starts, do your best at your role, and clear. Talk only if you really need to.
Last edited by Reinth; 09-10-2015 at 01:17 AM.
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