We should ally with the Garleans

[hagare]

lol so true. after reading this post, i decided to just copy and paste the line "Sephiroth is actually not that bad" and got hit with pages of "he isn't evil" or "well it was "X" fault!! >_<"

total nonsense

Kefka is the very picture of sanity and sainthood.

[Kikoten]

Empires are cool and most ancient empires were actually more of a good thing at most times back then

Also aree you referring to tolkien sauron or jackson sauron because the former wasn't actually muh evil gotta rule age of muh orcs

A distinct love of overly ornate and all covering armour?

Tolkien Sauron. Like Sauron, the Garleans want absolute order, to rule over E V E R Y B O D Y. Plus, as far as empires go, the Garleans aren't the cool kind.

So what if they are an empire? The whole "empires are bad" thing is really only a modern viewpoint. Very few native citizens of the British Empire during it's greatest extent in the 19th century thought they were doing the wrong thing or were "evil".

I guess that all depends on what lengths empires go to to gain their supreme rule over so many nations. My guess is most of them say, "Join us or die." Hence, Garleans.

[Xanikk999]

Kefka is the very picture of sanity and sainthood.

What are you on?

[Teryaani]

Pass, the uniforms for the rank and file suck. If we all got the fancy gun armor I'd consider it.

[ChazNatlo]

Also people keep assuming those that like the empire are trying to say they are misunderstood, they aren't. From our characters points of view they aren't and from the city states PoV they aren't. Those that dislike them are more than justified in doing so. But as mentioned numerous times some of us like playing the antagonists or just an opposing faction in general.

A number of you just want to play the badguys. Some of the people arguing seem to think that the Garleans are perfectly justified, or that we only see the worst of them. ((With the odd good soldier thrown in.))

[Teryaani]

A number of you just want to play the badguys. Some of the people arguing seem to think that the Garleans are perfectly justified, or that we only see the worst of them. ((With the odd good soldier thrown in.))

Some of us just want to watch the world burn...no wait. We want to watch our enemies burn while we rule the world.

People like playing the Sith or the Horde because their story is more morally complicated or because it frees them to behave more badly. Either way they likely end up with the better story overall. We haven't had many morally dubious moments in this game because we are a Hero (capital H) and that's probably how it's going to continue.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Some of us just want to watch the world burn...no wait. We want to watch our enemies burn while we rule the world.

People like playing the Sith or the Horde because their story is more morally complicated or because it frees them to behave more badly. Either way they likely end up with the better story overall. We haven't had many morally dubious moments in this game because we are a Hero (capital H) and that's probably how it's going to continue.

As I said previously, there's nothing shown about the Garleans that can gather any form of sympathy for me. I have more sympathy for the heretics of Isghard. I also think most people who want to play a bad guy just want to be one for the sake of doing whatever they want cause "lawl i'm evil!" I think a certain GTA5 character was made for those kinds of people.

[Theodric]

A number of you just want to play the badguys. Some of the people arguing seem to think that the Garleans are perfectly justified, or that we only see the worst of them. ((With the odd good soldier thrown in.))

They're not the bad guys - and anybody saying that they are needs to pay closer attention to the story. Very few - if any - individuals or organisations are painted as being black or white in terms of their morality. That goes for both Eorzeans and outsiders alike.

[Teryaani]

As I said previously, there's nothing shown about the Garleans that can gather any form of sympathy for me. I have more sympathy for the heretics of Isghard. I also think most people who want to play a bad guy just want to be one for the sake of doing whatever they want cause "lawl i'm evil!" I think a certain GTA5 character was made for those kinds of people.

Just so I'm clear, I'm not advocating pro-garlean. In addition to their uniforms being sub-par for an evil empire, their leadership are far too in the mold of cackling evil stereotypes to be enjoyable.

I'd like the chance to have alternate choices in game and have them actually mean something. The chance to be even a bit more amoral would be nice with all the consequences that brings. That doesn't mean going full Trevor.

[ChazNatlo]

They're not the bad guys - and anybody saying that they are needs to pay closer attention to the story. Very few - if any - individuals or organisations are painted as being black or white in terms of their morality. That goes for both Eorzeans and outsiders alike.

Case and point.