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    Quote Originally Posted by KihraJhin View Post
    its still limited by time, it just gives the option to switch around.
    Not by enough, no. One group hits the world first with optimal make-up, everyone else can immediately replicate, if they've put the time in to level their alt classes. Savage should not be on farm before the next chunk of content is out.

    Sorry, it's a patience thing. There's no requirement for you to have finished it yet. There's a desire, sure, but there's no need, and no pressure, other than that you and your group put on yourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberyl View Post
    Not by enough, no. One group hits the world first with optimal make-up, everyone else can immediately replicate, if they've put the time in to level their alt classes. Savage should not be on farm before the next chunk of content is out.
    You fail to understand the situation in which this would be used. Just because on makeup is the best doesnt mean that its easy finding players that can play their class good. the best setup was known even before savage was cleared and even having the best setup does not guarantee a kill at this point. but if you have one slot open and want to fill it but cannot find a player, why not give the option to have one switch in the team so you can take the player to fill your spot.

    edit: so lets say you have a melee spot open, so you can look for 2 jobs. What if your whm can play a really good ninja. If he could swap to ninja without losing out on tomestone gear, you could then go look for a melee or a whm (or ast if the partner is e.g. sch). He would lose his ilvl 210 savage pieces but still have a baseline of ilvl 200 gear which he had on his heal. its still a dps loss in terms of gear but its not so huge as it is now, since in savage you need every piece you can get. but that would still be better taking another heal instead of looking for a melee for 3 weeks.

    ff14 promoted having all jobs on one char, but every job except one is useless in endgame because of the gear restriction. the only time you can freely use them all in the latest endgame is when that endgame isnt endgame anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KihraJhin View Post
    You fail to understand the situation in which this would be used.
    No, I don't think I do. You open your post with dismay that you've lost a player due to having a non-optimal group, and struggling to progress because of that. You then suggest a system which would have avoided that.

    While you have my sympathies for the trouble within your social group, that's no reason to realign the premium tomes before their capped era is up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberyl View Post
    No, I don't think I do. You open your post with dismay that you've lost a player due to having a non-optimal group, and struggling to progress because of that. You then suggest a system which would have avoided that.

    While you have my sympathies for the trouble within your social group, that's no reason to realign the premium tomes before their capped era is up.
    1. we didnt lose him because we were non-optimal, his work load in rl is spiking atm
    2. since were rebuilding, and since savage IS the hardest content in the game so far, why not go with a better make up than before (i think i mentioned this in my post, i was sure someonne would bring up this petty reason)
    3. i never stated it should change now, it can very well be rebalanced when the eso time is over. no one would rebalance current content to such a degree, common sense pls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KihraJhin View Post
    1. we didnt lose him because we were non-optimal, his work load in rl is spiking atm
    Fraid that's not how your OP came across. Without being too flippant, the td:lr when I read it was, 'we're failing because we're non-optimal, we lost a guy because: impatience, suggestion - we should be able to switch when we want.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberyl View Post
    Fraid that's not how your OP came across. '
    oh youre right, reread it and i shouldve worded it differently. nah we were a tightknit group that values rl over the game, so not raiding from time to time wasnt an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KihraJhin View Post
    oh youre right, reread it and i shouldve worded it differently. nah we were a tightknit group that values rl over the game, so not raiding from time to time wasnt an issue.
    Good luck with the altered group composition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberyl View Post
    Savage should not be on farm before the next chunk of content is out.
    Uh...Yes, yes it should.
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