"Huge lack of tanks and healers in the game"

[Ametrine]

I find that infuriating, too. I just ask them to stop pulling, and if they won't, I'm not at all scared to Vote-kick for harassment. I've healed runs where that's happened, too, but it thankfully VERY rare as most DPS players are smart enough to realize there are more expendable than a tank or healer.

Being kind and willing to compromise will get you farther than being a dick.

[Aomine1992]

This right here is why SE is hesitant to release parsers. That WHM would have been gone the SECOND he said that nonsense.

Oh crap I forgot so I did try to vote kick him but one of the dps was his buddy which became obvious as this idiot DRG was doing the 1 2 3 combo -_- the whole time but the BLM said he had waited 30mins for the vault to que up so being the dumb good guy I am I stayed to get him his run and not waste his time cause I remember all to well those long dps ques q_q

[NekoGenesis]

The funny thing is, I was about to make the some comment as the OP. I definitely see a lot of tanks (mostly DRKs and WARs with a smattering of PLDs) idling in Idyllshire (huehue) standing there and looking stoic.

Is DF really that bad for tanks? I haven't had a negative experience yet on my DRK. I do agree that tanking is a lot more stressful than DPSing and the fact that there are no DPS checks in any of the non-Savage/Extreme content, combined with the fact that I'm technically not allowed to parse so I can't call a DPS out for hitting 1-2-3 (and sometimes not even that) and doing sub-300 DPS (and I'm not the type to kick them just for that reason anyway) means that DPS have it pretty damn easy all the way through the majority of 60 content. However, if a tank screws up, the consequences are a bit obvious in that everyone dies.

[Synestra]

Constant bashing is whats causing tanks to not queue up.

Nah its not the bashing its the shitty DD's and Healers you get in DF most of the time that made me quit doing roulettes, its more enjoyable to get tomes via PvP where you can kill those kind of players ^^

[Chessala]

There is not really a shortage of tanks but the proper tanks (like my OH and a few friends) avoid DF for good reason. What we have a lack of though is GOOD tanks.

DF is flooded with crappy tanks that hopped on Dark Knight because of the "dark and moody Emo Feel" that comes with them. However, these people have often no idea how to tank properly. They don't care about class positionals, cross class skills or even something as simple as dodging AOEs. They don't even care if they can hold aggro and if notified of their crappy tanking (no matter in what tone), they will get aggressive and rude.

For healers it is similar even if not as extreme but they are somewhat connected. What healer wants to heal a DF group with one of the shitty tanks mentioned above? I main healer and it always ends in an excessively long and frustrating run (if you are lucky enough to finish) or kicking the tank to actually be able to get somewhere.

Mind you, I am not talking about newbie tanks WILLING to learn. I am talking about the kind that thinks they are the shits because they got (addrandomnontankclass) to 60 and now think they know all of them.

[_Pigzig]

the great thing about being a tank is if someone talks trash you can just leave. i like to imagine them disbanding after

ohh, you got mad cause i didnt turn the trash pack to face away? well your right, but maybe you should look at ur measly dps before looking to me. you could always move out of the way you know.
oh boy whats this? trash talk?

well guess what
IM JUST GONNA LEAVE

if your dps yeah you can leave but its not as satisfying since its easy to get another dps.

[_Pigzig]

Is DF really that bad for tanks? I haven't had a negative experience yet on my DRK. I do agree that tanking is a lot more stressful than DPSing and the fact that there are no DPS checks in any of the non-Savage/Extreme content, combined with the fact that I'm technically not allowed to parse so I can't call a DPS out for hitting 1-2-3 (and sometimes not even that) and doing sub-300 DPS (and I'm not the type to kick them just for that reason anyway) means that DPS have it pretty damn easy all the way through the majority of 60 content. However, if a tank screws up, the consequences are a bit obvious in that everyone dies.

tanking is actually a pretty easy job in this game but people like to play blame the tank in every mmo as far as I know. not sure why its always the tank that gets it. so ppl probably avoid it for that reason

[Eye_Gore]

the great thing about being a tank is if someone talks trash you can just leave. i like to imagine them disbanding after

well guess what
IM JUST GONNA LEAVE

Though this is what gives us the label of "prima donna diva".

[_Pigzig]

i dont even care cause im not gonna see them again and that particular group was rude anyway.
they can call me prima donna diva... while they sit and wait for another tank

(this hasnt actually happened that often though)
however i must say i am guilty of the "tired of this one" and leaving right at the start of the dungeon

[Eye_Gore]

i dont even care cause im not gonna see them again

Bout sums up the attitude of the DF.