(3.1) Balancing Rental Airships vs Player Crafted Airships

[Yeldir]

We discussed this a bit in the Letter from the Producer LIVE XXIV, but we are planning to introduce some unique aspects to Free Company-specific airships. We'll share details on this on Lodestone and such in the future, so please look forward to it!

I'm really excited to hear this. Everyone is all, gil gil gil, but it was the last thing on my mind when I started on my FC's airships. Gil can't give a Free Company something meaningful to do together.

[Nestama]

It dawned on me that some will make assumptions about my previous post. In short, just so its clear, I am not from a huge wealthy FC. We're just a bunch of people who have fun playing together and are not over the top hardcore about the grind.

Same. My FC has... I think two or three airships, but not a lot of people. We just have players who enjoy crafting (our FC leader has 35mil gil, currently. All from gathering and crafting).

[Colorful]

I'm really excited to hear this. Everyone is all, gil gil gil, but it was the last thing on my mind when I started on my FC's airships. Gil can't give a Free Company something meaningful to do together.

Well considering the monsters are likely to have rare drops, and you can gather on the islands, it's still going to be gil gil gil. And FCs with airships will also likely make more "gil gil gil".

[jomoru]

WOw the Op's server must be messed up I was the first person to put Dusk leather on on MB and it NEVER sold for 10m the first Dusk leather thing we sold was the top for 6m

[colenzo]

How about SE stops pandering to the lowest common denominator and actually keeps this an FC related activity. I'm tired of people who subscribe to a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME only to play solo, then they go on the official forums and complain about how everything doesn't cater to them. Its ridiculous. There is absolutely ZERO reasons to have free companies in this game outside and a house where everybody can hang out and look at eachother.

Its just infuriating when they pitch this idea as an FC related activity and then they are like "oh everybody can do it now! look forward to 3.1 guys!" No.

[Colorful]

How about SE stops pandering to the lowest common denominator and actually keeps this an FC related activity. I'm tired of people who subscribe to a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME only to play solo, then they go on the official forums and complain about how everything doesn't cater to them. Its ridiculous. There is absolutely ZERO reasons to have free companies in this game outside and a house where everybody can hang out and look at eachother.

Its just infuriating when they pitch this idea as an FC related activity and then they are like "oh everybody can do it now! look forward to 3.1 guys!" No.

Are you really complaining that other people are going to access content made for the game, even though players with FCs and airships are going to get benefits over them (including myself now)? I'm baffled that you're angry that more people can access content, that required other content (one dungeon) to be removed to make it possible. Just wow.

[Nyalia]

Its just infuriating when they pitch this idea as an FC related activity and then they are like "oh everybody can do it now! look forward to 3.1 guys!" No.

You do realize that there's a finite amount of housing in the game, right? And that not all FCs are able to acquire it due to the space limitations, even if they have the gil? And that some FCs are newer or smaller than others? Please stop with the entitlement attitude, that FCs with houses should get special privileges that homeless FCs shouldn't get - it's not okay.

[colenzo]

Are you really complaining that other people are going to access content made for the game, even though players with FCs and airships are going to get benefits over them (including myself now)? I'm baffled that you're angry that more people can access content, that required other content (one dungeon) to be removed to make it possible. Just wow.

Yes, I don't give a crap about a dungeon being cut. You may not exactly call it lying but they were definitely not being truthful about airships being an FC only construct. Big surprise that somebody would be upset I know, totally unreasonable. Its really unreasonable for me to think I was going to have an activity that I could actually recruit around for an FC. Instead its just going to be more useless content.

If I haven't made this clear. I was looking forward to FC-centric game content. Now its not. Now I'm mad. Now I'm on the official forums giving feedback.

[colenzo]

You do realize that there's a finite amount of housing in the game, right? And that not all FCs are able to acquire it due to the space limitations, even if they have the gil? And that some FCs are newer or smaller than others? Please stop with the entitlement attitude, that FCs with houses should get special privileges that homeless FCs shouldn't get - it's not okay.

Yep, I can completely agree with what you're saying here in regards to the whole housing situation. Its pretty silly for them to start developing content around FCs when housing is a limited commodity. Whats even more silly is for them to devalue people's efforts (seems to be a recurring theme with this game.) by letting everybody just do whatever they want.

[Colorful]

Yes, I don't give a crap about a dungeon being cut. You may not exactly call it lying but they were definitely not being truthful about airships being an FC only construct. Big surprise that somebody would be upset I know, totally unreasonable. Its really unreasonable for me to think I was going to have an activity that I could actually recruit around for an FC. Instead its just going to be more useless content.

If I haven't made this clear. I was looking forward to FC-centric game content. Now its not. Now I'm mad. Now I'm on the official forums giving feedback.

Whether or not you give a crap doesn't matter, as a lot certainly do and they learnt to accept it after Airship Exploration was known to be doable by everyone. And no, they weren't being dishonest or lying, Airships are, and always will be (from what we can tell) and FC only construct. You're likely going to be renting a premade airship that's not as efficient or something like that and maybe even paying gil to rent it or maybe other FCs will put up listings at the Airship landing. I don't think they've put out any details on the matter so far.

As for activities to recruit around a FC for, well you've got raids and the social aspect. If your FC is not worth joining and sticking around on the social aspect alone, then that's a problem you have to deal with internally rather than enticing people with rewards, and rewards that they may or may not actually see themselves depending on how this is going to work. Whatever happened to people being in a Free Company/Guild to just be with and play with other people?

And last point, as Nyalia posted is that houses are very limited. If any FC with 20, 30, 40, hell even 100 members could get a house with relative ease, locking it behind that would be justified, but as that's not the case locking it behind a problem that SE themselves created, would be an awful thing.