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  1. #31
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    Will Brannigan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    We're knights. Simple as that.
    This is one where I think the loc team has the right of it. Paladin is a word that's gotten a lot attached to it from some games, but really what you're looking at is a knightly heroic champion. Even in some D&D editions, their powers don't come from any god, but manifest because the paladin is just that righteous and chivalrous. Eorzean paladins seem to fit in with that. Plus, we wear white and silver, now have angelic feathers all over our gear, and have a spell that pours down light from the sky to heal someone. Pretty righteous.

    Simply learning paladin swordplay does not make you a paladin─nor less the armor you wear, or the status you claim.
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    Strike off the shackles that bind your spirit, lift the visor that blinds, and find the true path of the paladin.
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    Be a paladin strong and true. Devote yourself to the way and become a beacon of light.
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    A free paladin has no master. Instead he travels all lands, and in every place takes up the cause of the unarmed and defenseless.
    With that said, I don't really think paladin is going to get any stacking buff before 4.0. Maybe if the dev team feels the need to heavily rework it later.
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    Just one thing i want to point, "holy aura", in the series of FF actualy Palladin is Knight in japanese version.
    But there 'holy knight' and both 'dark knight' in FFT Lion War.
    But palladin = knight, so it's just not the "holy knight", it's not a bad idea, but the Holy Aura like you said would be a other job feature if you see what i mean.
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    Last edited by kensatsu; 08-31-2015 at 05:39 AM.

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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by kensatsu View Post
    Just one thing i want to point, "holy aura", in the series of FF actualy Palladin is Knight in japanese version.
    But there 'holy knight' and both 'dark knight' in FFT Lion War.
    But palladin = knight, so it's just not the "holy knight", it's not a bad idea, but the Holy Aura like you said would be a other job feature if you see what i mean.
    Why have a job that is so similar to another job? It doesn't make sense to me.
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    Alindalia Finrandi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Why have a job that is so similar to another job? It doesn't make sense to me.
    It's what you're suggesting.
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    I just mean don't put "holy aura" to pld , it don't go with the pld basics just add some burst ability (not the holy power), or you ask the pld to be upgrade to holy knight without shield. (I mean it's the PLD job he have to be similar to what a PLD used to be, and not get like a other job from the FF serie)
    But i would not say, no stacks on pld, or a similar system, something you have to keep and built. Even with the new skill the pld have now it's still easy enough to just keep going, your combo rotation, doing your aggro combo, refresh the dot combo, doing the dps combo, with only something in mind, migitate damage when you need and not loosing aggro.
    It would be more fun, to have to think about something else.
    To be fair, it's hard to actualy miss your pld rotation ? no ?,
    there is some DPS like monk, drg, you are crazy about loosing your stacks/ dragonblood, as war you now try to be stackeds 3 times when you pop berserk
    I don't mind having the same issue as pld
    It don't need to be stacks, dragonblood is not a stack system, but you need to refresh it as fast you can, i think pld can have something like this
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by kensatsu View Post
    I just mean don't put "holy aura" to pld , it don't go with the pld basics just add some burst ability (not the holy power), or you ask the pld to be upgrade to holy knight without shield. (I mean it's the PLD job he have to be similar to what a PLD used to be, and not get like a other job from the FF serie)
    But i would not say, no stacks on pld, or a similar system, something you have to keep and built. Even with the new skill the pld have now it's still easy enough to just keep going, your combo rotation, doing your aggro combo, refresh the dot combo, doing the dps combo, with only something in mind, migitate damage when you need and not loosing aggro.
    It would be more fun, to have to think about something else.
    To be fair, it's hard to actualy miss your pld rotation ? no ?,
    there is some DPS like monk, drg, you are crazy about loosing your stacks/ dragonblood, as war you now try to be stackeds 3 times when you pop berserk
    I don't mind having the same issue as pld
    It don't need to be stacks, dragonblood is not a stack system, but you need to refresh it as fast you can, i think pld can have something like this
    The issue with it is, it sounds way too much like something you really have to worry about. Whilst this isn't that complicated. You just block to get stacks or crit to get stacks. As a Paladin you shouldn't be worried too much about "stacks" its just a bonus that helps you rather then something you need to watch and keep up. You "can" watch and keep it up or just leave it up and ignore it completely.

    It won't make or break your class like dragoon.

    It won't rely on close watch and timing like warrior.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    It's what you're suggesting.
    I don't care about other jobs in other games. Honestly.

    I care about jobs in this game and the mechanic is nothing like anything else in the game.

    If a Paladin is a "Knight" in Japanese, how and why are his attacks super flashy and why does he use the sword improperly? Why does he always push his shield away when he attacks? He is clearly relying on magic. Thus he is more then a Knight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicia View Post
    Are we seriously discussing animations in a game with magic, flying cats and whales and islands, and people riding chickens?

    I mean karateorangutang got the right of about monks. But also look at dark knights, don't they get tired holding the sword so up high in such a manner? Half their animations don't look like they hurt either. And everyone glides on the ground if they are moving mid-animation.

    I wouldn't worry too much about PLD moving their left arm a bit more to the back than they should. The magic they rely on for shield "protection" is called RNG.
    Why ya so caught up in names then?
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    If a Paladin is a "Knight" in Japanese, how and why are his attacks super flashy and why does he use the sword improperly? Why does he always push his shield away when he attacks? He is clearly relying on magic. Thus he is more then a Knight.
    It's not as bad as monk... good god. I've trained martial arts my whole life and all they usually do is expose their vital points in attempts to flail at the enemy like a rubber band man.
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    Naomi Enami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    If a Paladin is a "Knight" in Japanese, how and why are his attacks super flashy and why does he use the sword improperly? Why does he always push his shield away when he attacks? He is clearly relying on magic. Thus he is more then a Knight.
    Are we seriously discussing animations in a game with magic, flying cats and whales and islands, and people riding chickens?

    I mean karateorangutang got the right of about monks. But also look at dark knights, don't they get tired holding the sword so up high in such a manner? Half their animations don't look like they hurt either. And everyone glides on the ground if they are moving mid-animation.

    I wouldn't worry too much about PLD moving their left arm a bit more to the back than they should. The magic they rely on for shield "protection" is called RNG.
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    The fact of the facts is that PLD is boring after a while, and while it is an awesome class, it still boring. Let us not forget the many tweaks he also need like shield swipe not being a dps lose, take off pacification cause trully that thing is just nothing, plain and simple. SE already knows what tweaks ,changes and what can be added to PLD and if they dont, there are like a numerous amount of post about PLD (mainly).
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    Last edited by Tadus; 09-02-2015 at 01:40 PM.

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