Bard have a healing songs?

[DkDerek]

The problem is that sounds like an utter nightmare to balance.
If it heals too little, it is worthless in itself. Think of a smn using physick in an actual raid environment where the boss sneezing does more damage then a smn physick can heal.
If you make it worthwhile it got potential to utterly break some stuff when you time it during certain parts.
You talk about stupid kind of thinking, but you would be surprised of the stuff people can think off that can break fights.

This exactly. If it's not worthless, than it will be used to break certain mechanics. While ONE healer might not be able to heal a certain mechanic on it's own, it MAY be able to heal a certain mechanic with a bards song. Now the other healer can full time DPS through that phase. Now the enrage timer is trivial.

[DkDerek]

Also, there needs to be less abilities that allow you to recover from wipes. A wipe is a wipe. You failed. Try again.

It was a joke how easily Healer LB could be abused on ravana EX. I've literally been in groups who's strategy was to essentially die to double prey, and Healer LB to recover.

[Mycow8me]

This exactly. If it's not worthless, than it will be used to break certain mechanics. While ONE healer might not be able to heal a certain mechanic on it's own, it MAY be able to heal a certain mechanic with a bards song. Now the other healer can full time DPS through that phase. Now the enrage timer is trivial.

You make it sound like there really is no inbetween. It wouldnt be a nightmare to "balance". Its not meant to be used when two healers are up obviously otherwise the song is broken, it could lower bards dps significantly. Why are you against options for recovering thats just stupid. So what, if a dps is still alive and manages to kill boss with 3bar lb it should have been a wipe still to? Its called the divine moment, the struggle, the last chance. Its called "fun". Ill never understand this community. Just want tank and spank with dodge or die.

[dementiondrive]

i would like bard to go back to what 1.0 had personally. even if it is a false hope. that said.

i love having fun and using the LB to actually change the tide of battle from a clenching loss is just as satisfying to do and clear then just face rolling to win. which for some is not actually fun. though difference on players. if some really think it is wipe we can't recover. then there was no confidence there for the group you are in. there of coarse some exception to certain fights where if you lose a tank healer or DPS at certain fights that you know is not recoverable to meet a check. sure. lets not waste time and try again.

i have been in such scenario when ifrit hard was still viable. had a bad healer and i was scholar at the time. from the point of passing nails the majority went down. we had a tank, 1 DPS (can't remember the class) and myself. we cleared it. the DPS died about 12% left just when the LB3 registered before plumes took them. it was left with me and tank. i was low on health at this point and had to make a decision. since LB3 was gone. i literally did not move even when the plume was going to be where i was. i lustrated the tank 2 times before the plumes too me to my death. the tank was at the last 2% of ifrit. we cleared which everyone was like how did it feel to carry us? of coarse i got a lot of commendations that run as it was looking like a wipe was truly going to happen.

those are the moments that make a win so satisfying. overcoming odds.

[Sessurea]

Nice idea. Take 6 bards and no healers.

[Mindylou]

Also, there needs to be less abilities that allow you to recover from wipes. A wipe is a wipe. You failed. Try again.

It was a joke how easily Healer LB could be abused on ravana EX. I've literally been in groups who's strategy was to essentially die to double prey, and Healer LB to recover.

I like the game as is, only wow scrubs want your suggestion

[Cherie]

Bards *do* in fact have a healing song in this game. We just haven't learned it. It's just like when you see a paladin mob do "bloodstain" or something.

There are plenty of abilities for bard that are on the table to add. As noticed, the "valor" song used in more than one bard quest by the trainer NPC and also during the event.
For this expansion, they looked at what was on the table and we got a few new skills. A healing song didn't make the cut as they decided to add other skills for bard.

It's not like it won't ever happen. It's something that "fits" the job but at the moment the devs found other skills for a bard to have for the 50-60 process.

Someday maybe, or maybe not. But not yet.

[Catwho]

I have macros in Foes and Ballad that say exactly what the song effects are for two reasons: 1. so I can tell any other bard in the alliance I've got them going so we're not doubled up and 2. so people know I'm doing more than just standing there shooting arrows.

I get a lot of "oh wow a bard using Foe's without being asked! LOVE YOU" comments.

As for the regen.... it's better to pop a Ballad and let the healers toss a regen on us. The only time I think a regen song might be useful is for solo content or low manning dungeons.

[JillyBean]

Bard in FFXI had group healing regen spell <3

Yep, and that song was called Paeon. Imagine my /sad at Paeon's affect in XIV

It's a bummer we can't have support jobs because of the duty system. It makes me wonder what will RDM look like and whether I will have any interest in touching it ...

If Bard could truly be support there would be people like me playing it and songs would actually be sung.

[Assirra]

I like the game as is, only wow scrubs want your suggestion

Was that seriously required?