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    Adrasteia's Avatar
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    Alys Brangwyn
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    Melding should really just eat a flat amount of materia per overmeld. The current system is both immensely tedious and immeasurably frustrating and adds nothing of value to the game. If I want to gamble, I'll head to the Gold Saucer, thanks.
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrasteia View Post
    Melding should really just eat a flat amount of materia per overmeld. The current system is both immensely tedious and immeasurably frustrating and adds nothing of value to the game. If I want to gamble, I'll head to the Gold Saucer, thanks.
    I remember when failing a meld meant losing the gear too.
    Those were the days.
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    Richiealvian's Avatar
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    Rinoa Heartily
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I remember when failing a meld meant losing the gear too.
    Those were the days.
    Oh man, even worse when you had to enhance your gears to +10 or 20 and only then would you utilise slots to meld materia/cards/enhancements/scrolls on to it.. on some games..
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    Honey Hole
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richiealvian View Post
    Oh man, even worse when you had to enhance your gears to +10 or 20 and only then would you utilise slots to meld materia/cards/enhancements/scrolls on to it.. on some games..
    I ended up ragequitting Tera after burning 800+ master enhancement scrolls on my dumb armor & getting nothing.
    I love XIV too much to quit over temporary setbacks like this though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    This is the step back I take, I'm all about melding what I need, not melding to be the best like no one ever was. Look at what you are doing and ask yourself, "Do I need this or am I just doing it for the big numbers?" You are better of in a financial and mental state to focus on what you need rather than want because when you try to get the best stats and then look to what you can make you'll realize that, while yes you can get the best stats that they aren't really necessary at this point in time.
    That's sort of interesting because it's why I wanted to meld out my accs & belt. Looking at how long the i55 lasted (thru multiple armour sets at that), it seemed like a decent use of materia rather than burn it trying to meld the individualized AF sets.

    I could sell it instead & just meld IIIs but idk what the point is. For me, crafting theory is what's interesting, which means I'd like to get near-capped stats to play around with progress & see where it's possible to drop steps, cp efficiency & all that yummy numbers stuff.

    If the endgame is making gil, then I don't need 2-star gear to do so, you're right, my current crappy gear is more than enough. I should just SB all day or sell hq mats to other crafters, but that isn't really interesting.
    Making gil is just a happy byproduct of crafting I guess? I don't really need anything right now.
    I just want to gear up so I can play w my spreadsheets & it's frustrating being arbitrarily blocked by rng.
    It's interesting that a lot of XIV isn't "necessary", and that what each player's endgame is isn't necessarily tied to DoW/M progress.
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    Rinoa Heartily
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    Quote Originally Posted by hqdm View Post
    I ended up ragequitting Tera after burning 800+ master enhancement scrolls on my dumb armor & getting nothing.
    I love XIV too much to quit over temporary setbacks like this though.


    That's sort of interesting because it's why I wanted to meld out my accs & belt. Looking at how long the i55 lasted (thru multiple armour sets at that), it seemed like a decent use of materia rather than burn it trying to meld the individualized AF sets.

    I could sell it instead & just meld IIIs but idk what the point is. For me, crafting theory is what's interesting, which means I'd like to get near-capped stats to play around with progress & see where it's possible to drop steps, cp efficiency & all that yummy numbers stuff.

    If the endgame is making gil, then I don't need 2-star gear to do so, you're right, my current crappy gear is more than enough. I should just SB all day or sell hq mats to other crafters, but that isn't really interesting.
    Making gil is just a happy byproduct of crafting I guess? I don't really need anything right now.
    I just want to gear up so I can play w my spreadsheets & it's frustrating being arbitrarily blocked by rng.
    It's interesting that a lot of XIV isn't "necessary", and that what each player's endgame is isn't necessarily tied to DoW/M progress.
    I'm exactly the same as you, or perhaps were. All I wanted to do was get to the maximum cap I can get, do at least once or twice of the hardest recipe with the optimal rotations, see how "easy" i could make it and then be done with it. It felt like "end game" to me, and a final boss to overcome, first undergeared, then overgeared.. those were good fun. But it really is an expensive thing to do..
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    Mizuki Ishikawa
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    Belias
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by hqdm View Post
    I ended up ragequitting Tera after burning 800+ master enhancement scrolls on my dumb armor & getting nothing.
    Aion abyss gear says hi. Wants to know if you have anymore manastones to burn.
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I remember when failing a meld meant losing the gear too.
    Those were the days.
    Relic 1.0 ... You were a bastard to get.

    Speaking of relics... I really hope the new relic doesn't have a % loss chance on any materias it might need.
    Losing 2 million gil on a 80% meld rate again will make it... not fun. orz
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    Last edited by Niqote; 08-30-2015 at 02:24 PM.

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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I remember when failing a meld meant losing the gear too.
    Those were the days.
    Seriously?!
    What kind of masochistic player does it need to put up with Bullshit like that?

    @OP: 8 years of WoW taught me that RNG doesn't like me even one tiny bit. So the moment I heard about "RNG overmelds" I was like "yeah .. not going to do that".
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