Quest need to be less DPS and tank focused

[MidnightTundra]

You can't even unlock SCH without taking CNJ to level 15. Cleric Stance is Level 6.

If you really don't like using cross-class skills, I think you should find a different game to play.

EDIT: OP is probably trolling.

[Kinseykinz]

I agree. NO class/job in the game needs a single cross class skill outside their own in order to complete MSQ other than SCH and AST. They ABSOLUTELY must have Cleric Stance. The logic behind that? Dunno. Swift Cast, Quelling Strikes, Blood for Blood, Provoke, Protect, Stone Skin, whatever.. No one needs these cross class skills to play solo. The only exception is Cleric Stance. Inside the game, at what point was there ever an emphasis on cross class skills? Or maybe I missed it. A skill that is so vital to healers in order to play solo, either have that ability built into all healer classes or give em a means to complete solo instances through strictly healing. I was fortunate enough to have played a CNJ at the very beginning and had Cleric Stance, Protect and Stone Skin at the ready when I tried ACN/SCH a while later. They were so important to me as a SCH that I would never had guessed that the class never would not have had these skills unless I had leveled a CNJ first. Lucky me.

Yeah, not true really.

Most Melee/tank roles end up picking up either Second Wind and/or Cure to assist themselves with self-heals while leveling.
THM's typically make the walk to Gridania to unlock protect and cure low level to assist themselves with self-heals/and back up party 'boy did things go south fast' skills.
If you're leveling MRD, and you're doing dungeons w/o Flash or Provoke...may the 12 have mercy on your soul.

As far as MCH/DRK/AST...well considering WHEN the game allows you to even unlock these roles/and the class unlock requirements, if you don't have at least the bare min in cross, class skills on your hotbar, I don't know what to say to you.

And when it comes to 'no other roles have it as hard'

Also not true....

Healers, get this, can actually HEAL the NPC's in the quests, other roles cannot do this. Healers can also heal themselves etc. So for some quests, they actually have the advantage.

Tanks, have higher def and HP pools, and also generally have some tools that allow them to modestly restore their HPs. In addition to this, they have instant +emn skills that can help them rip hate of key NPC's etc. So for some quests, they actually have the advantage.

Melee DPS, have high damage output, and aren't easy to interrupt...but lack in powerful self-heals and can sometimes stuggle to get a mob's attention on them and off a key NPC. Also, esp. lower level, they can get overwhelmed when fighting multiple mobs. Still, their high dps output means that for some quests, they actually have the advantage.

Ranged DPS, again have high dps output, but (unless brd/mch) can be easily interrupted esp. if they need to move...still to compensate for this, they have a fair amount of CC skills. Although these roles (accept ACN), lack a natural way to heal themselves w/o cross class skills, and are the most 'squishy' of all the roles...so things can get dicey quick if they don't kill enough or have to spend a large time dodging. Still, for AOE battles, and any time they can park and bark, these roles have the advantage.

Typically though, if you have proper 'at level' gear on, and know your role, and READ what the quest tells you to do (so many skip reading and therefore, miss what the actual objective is), it's pretty hard to have multiple fails on any role within the MSQ.

PS: I have no sympathy for the SCH that doesn't get AND EQUIP proper cross class skills if they intend to heal....they can, anytime they wish, swap to SMN if being 'bothered' to equip Cleric's Stance isn't 'for them' ....especially when I don't think you can even unlock SCH without leveling CNJ to at least 15...1st role or not.

[WhiteArchmage]

The thing is...you're not LUCKY you leveled CNJ before unlocking SCH...you NEED to get CNJ 15 to unlock it, which is wel past the point of Cleric Stance and Protect (Stoneskin is another thing but most will say SCH doesn't need it)

[Kumori_Kumo]

As the story progresses, the story fights do get a little bananas. I watched my BF struggle in several instances with his Astrologian while my Warrior just walked all over its face. There's clearly a little bit of sloppiness when it comes to balancing these encounters between the classes.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Did you heal the npc? Because if you didn't you weren't even using your main class skills.

It's not like you have to go out of your way to equip clerics or something anyway. It's so low level it's purpose is for soloing content and it's available to healers very early on. They have to make these quests interesting for everyone. If the npcs have so little hp that any dps can just faceroll through it then it would become the least memorable quest instead of an important story catalyst.

[Tint]

I agree. NO class/job in the game needs a single cross class skill outside their own in order to complete MSQ other than SCH and AST. They ABSOLUTELY must have Cleric Stance. The logic behind that? Dunno.

cleric only exists for the reason you can do solo content like the MSQ. you don't NEED cleric in any multiplayer content.

[Cynfael]

cleric only exists for the reason you can do solo content like the MSQ. you don't NEED cleric in any multiplayer content.

Any raid/progression healer will disagree with you.

As will any other truly skilled healer.

[Taika]

Scholar is my solo job of choice for any content in this game. It has very high DPS potential alongside with healing powers. I think DD and tank jobs have a bigger disadvantage because they're not capable of healing themselves for the most part.

cleric only exists for the reason you can do solo content like the MSQ. you don't NEED cleric in any multiplayer content.

I don't know if you're trolling, but cleric stance is very widely used in all endgame and leveling content for all healers.

[StouterTaru]

I passed that mission in one try with my monk, my SCH however can't kill things fast enough. It's just an unfair position to put healer classes in

Try healing as a healer, there's half a dozen NPCs in there that deal damage. Plus they have insane HP, and stoneskin is a flat 10%.

[Tint]

I don't know if you're trolling, but cleric stance is very widely used in all endgame and leveling content for all healers.

of course it is. but you don't NEED it. shall i use even bigger letters? healer dps is nice to have, but there is no content in this game where cleric is needed to hit the dps check. okay, if you are doing the content undergeared you will probably need the extra dps. but if you hit the minimum ilvl you are fine (as long as the actual dps in your party don't suck xD)

as i said: the reason cleric exists is solo content.