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  1. #51
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    Mutemutt's Avatar
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    Mumuki Muki
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    Leviathan
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Right now, I'm against it because I think it may be unnecessary homogenization. I'm not convinced that whm needs a virus that works on magic damage, that it's too much of a disadvantage.

    If the stacking of virus and disable really is that polarizing, I would rather they change disable so that it has no effect if the target is already under the effects of virus/super virus (but maybe still let it work through antibody) and have virus overwrite disable.
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  2. #52
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    Emarial Artayu
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    no just no thats a sch/sum exclusive
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  3. #53
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    No please. Go on and remove normal Virus also, and give us WHM other type of mitigation similar to Virus.
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  4. #54
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    Alexa Nubara
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    Gilgamesh
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Neither of those changes had anything to do with a philosophy that WHM should not have mitigation.
    I said that....hence the (more for balance though)
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  5. #55
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    SenzorialBoundries's Avatar
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    Polaris Sonata
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by WingsOfAzrael View Post
    no just no thats a sch/sum exclusive
    Cure 2 Procs on Cures and godly HotS were also WHM exclusive , guess what AST got it all but better, with less mana cost.
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  6. #56
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    Gideon Highmourn
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    Cure 2 Procs on Cures and godly HotS were also WHM exclusive , guess what AST got it all but better, with less mana cost.
    Incorrect.

    AST's insta proc Benefic IIs are not NEARLY as useful as Freecure procs. AST also has less reliable MP management options, and their HoTs don't heal for the same amount as WHM's, hence the lower MP cost of spells; over the course of a fight, WHM will still significantly out heal an AST.

    Please stop spreading misinformation; this thread isn't even about AST v WHM abilities.

    As for WHM getting Supervirus, I don't really see an issue with it either way.
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  7. #57
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    Polaris Sonata
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by GideonHighmourn View Post
    Incorrect.

    AST's insta proc Benefic IIs are not NEARLY as useful as Freecure procs. AST also has less reliable MP management options, and their HoTs don't heal for the same amount as WHM's, hence the lower MP cost of spells; over the course of a fight, WHM will still significantly out heal an AST.

    Please stop spreading misinformation; this thread isn't even about AST v WHM abilities.

    As for WHM getting Supervirus, I don't really see an issue with it either way.
    t my point is , its the same concept, nothing new or creative on AST, and the inate reduced mp costs on spells will save almost the same mp as a couple of cure 2 procs in a fight, i can also say cure 2 procs are RNG just like the cards. And whm should NOT get supervirus.
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    Last edited by SenzorialBoundries; 08-29-2015 at 11:38 PM.

  8. #58
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    Ara Hoshizora
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    Cure 2 Procs on Cures and godly HotS were also WHM exclusive , guess what AST got it all but better, with less mana cost.
    Need to emphasize that enhanced benefic is garbage compared to freecure
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  9. #59
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I'm fine with sharing super Virus. Maybe sch/summoner will get a trait to increase dps
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  10. #60
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    Richard Butte
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    Machinist Lv 90
    If skills are going to be cross class, I see nothing wrong with making them the best version of them that's cross class, at least in the case of Virus.

    Virus has a built in CD in that it gives the monster immunity for a minute after getting the virus, so it shouldn't be an issue.
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