What Roles would you like for Samurai and Red Mage?

[Luvbunny]

Does Blue Mage necessarily have to be a melee fighter?

Well they could start completely different with FF14, but not sure how to would handle spells collection. Although they could refer to how Final Fantasy Tactics Advance deal with the spell collection. Ah, now I have to turn on my DS and go back to replay this!!

[MetalheroD]

Personally, count me in the camp that wants RDM tank, with rapier, and possibly evaision or shields (as in, magic barriers) as their main means of defense. At the very least, I'd prefer it be a melee DPS, possibly with elemental enhancements to it's melee strikes (again, with a rapier.)

[Rumpelstiltzkin]

Lol, what do you expect to be the answer. Most people are dps and for the most part people want to play the new jobs so dps it is. Hopefully the devs don't care at all about what something like this shows.

[Daralii]

Well they could start completely different with FF14, but not sure how to would handle spells collection. Although they could refer to how Final Fantasy Tactics Advance deal with the spell collection. Ah, now I have to turn on my DS and go back to replay this!!

Probably a spattering of some of the more iconic blue magic spells gained through job quests. Don't think actual collection like XI would work in XIV.

[kudokun3]

We need more Tanks/Healers and not DDs so I would give it a try if the Redmage becomes a Healer (or Tank whatever) and Samurai at least a Tank!

#justmy2cents

[Duelle]

SAM would likely be rolled as a tank (if they use heavy armor) but looking at the current tanks, things don't look enticing enough for SAM to be a tank so I'll say they might become a DPS with cloth armor instead. Maybe something like Kenshin or Vergil?

I'll admit that the SAM storyline NPC having the split personality Kenshin had would make things very interesting. If they want to base it on iaido/battoujutsu I can think of no better place to start. SAM with Godspeed; please look forward to it.

Does Blue Mage necessarily have to be a melee fighter?

Not necessarily. I'd personally want BLU to be a caster DPS to sit next to BLM and SMN. Unlike other jobs, all BLU needs to be recognizable is an array of monster skills. The spells I'd give it would count as blunt damage (creating a weird synergy between BLU and MNK) and of course recognizable spells from stuff like Marlboros and dragons and behemoths.

[Altanas]

I could see RDM working as a frontline melee. Why give them a nice rapier if they stand in the backline casting?
Rather than with "spells" cast in the traditional manner. They should operate off combos instead.
A mix up of RDM + Elementalist from Tactics Advance sounds the way to go.
They would play like Dancer from 11

[Shippuu]

two jobs using the same type of weapon for the same role? will not happend, people need to stop ask samurai as tank, it will never happend it was said by yoshida.

First of all, it has never been stated by Yoshi-P with a definitive yes or no about Samurai being only a dps if it's added. Not even close and if you have a source where he clearly said "Samurai will be a dps end of story" then please provide it but you can't because it doesn't exist. The only thing yoshi has confirmed about it is that he pictures samurai as cloth wearing iaido masters and that that idea lends itself towards a dps role and that it they made it a tank if the name Shogun would be more fitting for the job. That's it. That's all yoshida has said about the role of samurai if they even add it.

As for the weapon, it is absolutely not a problem for two tanks to have similar weapons. If you think a samurai's katanas and attacks would look anything like dark knight's then you're hugely mistaken and the fact they had DRK wield their swords like they do could very well be indicative of samurai tank in the future to give each one a more distinctive neutral stance. By your logic DRK shouldn't use greatswords because all they are are bigger swords (hell a ton of the greatsword models are just upscaled paladin weapons with slight tweaks.) A katana/tachi is not a giant greatsword. This argument against samurai because they would have semi-similar weapons is pathetically weak. It doesn't matter.

another point, dual weapon is generally the mark of a dps jobs, what the point to wield two weapon outside inflict more damage?

What's the purpose of holding a weapon with two hands? To do more damage. Your point is null. Common fencing styles used a second blade in the off hand meant solely for deflecting and parrying, for samurai it would be no different. Dual wielding does not relate to more damage. This is a nonsense argument.

other point, it's pointless to add more tank if they will have the same principle behind.
Samurai, can be a physical class oriented, no magic involved into this, since they use katana and no shield, it will end with mainly parry as focus for the defense. sadly, we already have one tank that do this... it's called the warrior.

Dark knight also has moves that emphasize parry. Dragoon has a move that increases parry. It doesn't matter. Samurai in Final Fantasy games have done all manner of things, some of these involve magic or summoning spirits with their swords. SE has plenty of options to create a unique theme for samurai and anyone who says otherwise simply lacks the imagination to see that.

finally, we need one more jobs with mail armor (like dragoon) samurai will be perfect pick for this.

Why? Why must we have more "mail wearing" classes? No other class contests loot for Monk or Ninja either. All 3 melee dps have their own type of gear, why should Dragoons have to share theirs then? Why not monks or ninjas? If they put samurai in their armor, they should be a tank. And if they don't put them in their armor, they should be a dps and share gear with monk or nin, not drg.

anyway, we are beating a dead horse, since Yoshida, the director of the game himself have said that samurai will come as dps. people asking for be a tank, need to stop and pass to something else, we already have 3 different tank there, why not focus on this three instead to ask for a jobs, that probably you will never play seriously. tons of people have said they was happy to see drk as tank... do they play it now? most of them nope.

Sure it's a dead horse. But again you're still wrong and Yoshida has said no such definitive thing and even then he isn't the end all he all. Samurai was already in the running for a tank before they decided to go with DRK instead and that tank SAM could have just been put on a backburner for later.

We have 3 tanks, as opposed to 7 dps jobs. There's plenty of other options for more dps that are certainly coming and only a few options for potential tanks. Samurai is the best choice. And plenty of people picked up tanking and found they liked it because DRK was made a tank. The census data shows there has been an increase in tanks and that means it worked, putting a wanted job as a tank did indeed sway people to play tanks and SE should highly consider doing that again.

[Valoiz]

Samurai : evasion tank / could share armor with mnk

His tank buff should be something like: Increase chance of evasion 20% - reduce dmg taken 30% and increase agro.
And the key skills: evade next atack (like 10s cd) and "Ultimate evasion" increase evasion 50% for 10 sec with something like 60 sec CD. :3

Red Mage: Melee with some insta fire :3

[shao32]

whe need another tank, 3 tanks now are umbalance in therms of MT and OT, so whe need another good OT and samurai can dealt the job like a parry damage support and kick the warrior of the untouchable OT throne.

and for the ppl who say whe dont have any dps whith swords, ninjas use 2 ninjatos, are a little smalls swords, ravana and law weapons are very long swords for ninja too.

i don't care if make samurai like a dps but for me is more like a tank class, they need change the defense stads to make more unique the tanks jobs thats for sure.

for red mage, well whe need a new caster only have 2 now, a caster suppor can be nice to have a 3º support class and caster in same time, or meaby healer but i see the job more offensive really.