Removal of Surnames

[Abriael]

[QUOTE=Rhianu;32773]I know the current state of the game perfectly. I'm just not delusional enough to believe that the changes made so far have been that drastic. Most of them are actually rather minor changes.

The changes have helped the game, sure, but they haven't completely transformed it.

I highly doubt you've played every MMORPG ever made for the first 5 months.

Actually I played every major MMORPG that gets released on the market, and many minor, and keep myself informed, for work reasons, about the state of basically every one of them (not to mention basically every single player game), So yeah.
There have been an enormous number of changes, and many of them quite major.

Okay, now you're just being an idiot. Review scores are HUGE for any video game. They have an enormous impact on sales numbers, which are critical to the continual success of the title. Also, any game, even an MMO, can be judged in an hour's playtime or less.

The fact that they can have an huge impact on sales doesn't make them anywhere indicating of a game's quality.
The fact that you say that a MMO can be judged in a hour or less shows how little you know about reviewing a game. You cannot review something until you see all the options offered, and there's no MMORPG that gives a player all the options in the first view levels.
It's a basic concept of journalistic integrity. You don't write about what you didn't try first hand.

You're twisting my words. I never said ALL options are always good. Sometimes certain options might not fit within the context of the game. That does not contradict what I said earlier.

"options ALWAYS good" = "all options are good".

Funny, I don't seem to have any trouble remembering all the different names of the people on my Xbox Live friends list

You seem to equate your standpoint with everyone's, or even the average. Doesn't work like that.
MMORPG systems and rules need to be as foolproof as possible, and actually one of the major flaws of FFXIV is that it's not foolproof enough.

Actually no, it can still have multiple meanings even in that context. It depends on how strictly or loosely you use the word.

"to fire" as an abslute term. As such it cannot be used loosely. The verb you're looking for is "to demote".

Sorry, but the only troll I see here is you.

Interesting. You may want to be made aware that the by the book definition of troll is "going to a forum dedicated to a certain subject only to bash that subject and stir controversy". Looking at the posting history of the OP, he fits that definition perfectly. On the other hand, since I enjoy this game and express it, i don't fit it by the very definition itself.
Unfortunately for you, disagreeing with you and proving your points wrong doesn't equate to being a troll.

[DeadRiser]

[QUOTE=Abriael;32835]Actually I played every major MMORPG that gets released on the market, and many minor, and keep myself informed, for work reasons, about the state of basically every one of them (not to mention basically every single player game), So yeah.
There have been an enormous number of changes, and many of them quite major.[QUOTE=Abriael;32835]

OH ok cool then Abrieal, have you played RIFT yet? I was just looking into it and seeing if it was any good or not? Kinda off topic but oh well.

[Rhianu]

Actually I played every major MMORPG that gets released on the market, and many minor, and keep myself informed, for work reasons, about the state of basically every one of them (not to mention basically every single player game), So yeah.
There have been an enormous number of changes, and many of them quite major.

You keep tabs on every single video game on the market? Right, that sounds plausible... not. -_-

The fact that [review scores] can have an huge impact on sales doesn't make them anywhere indicating of a game's quality.

Review scores cannot be used as an indication of a game's quality? Are you dense? That's what scores are for!

The fact that you say that a MMO can be judged in a hour or less shows how little you know about reviewing a game. You cannot review something until you see all the options offered, and there's no MMORPG that gives a player all the options in the first view levels.
It's a basic concept of journalistic integrity. You don't write about what you didn't try first hand.

Well naturally a good critic will need to play a game rather extensively in order to get a good feel for how everything fits together. But unless you're actually writing a review, you do NOT need to have an extensive amount of knowledge about all the game's inner workings to determine whether or not the game is any fun. THAT can be determined in a rather short amount of time.

"options ALWAYS good" = "all options are good".

Wrong. The words "all" and "always" mean two entirely different things. Stop failing and learn to speak English.

You seem to equate your standpoint with everyone's, or even the average. Doesn't work like that.
MMORPG systems and rules need to be as foolproof as possible, and actually one of the major flaws of FFXIV is that it's not foolproof enough.

Look. Names will be easy to remember regardless of whether or not everyone is forced to use the same format. Since you seem to be so dense, I'm going to spell this out with big bold letters in the hopes that it will get through your incredibly thick skull.

[SIZE=7]YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FORCE ALL PLAYERS TO USE THE SAME FORMAT IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE AN EASY TO USE SYSTEM!!! NAMES WILL STILL BE EASY TO REMEMBER, EVEN IF SOME PEOPLE HAVE SINGLE NAMES AND OTHERS HAVE COMPOUND NAMES!!![/SIZE]

Seriously, I don't understand why you're insisting that all names need to have a consistent format in order to be remembered. They don't. People can still remember different names just fine, even if the format of those names is not always consistent.

"to fire" as an absolute term. As such it cannot be used loosely. The verb you're looking for is "to demote".

Meh, semantics.

[DeadRiser]

You keep tabs on every single video game on the market? Right, that sounds plausible...



Review scores cannot be used as an indication of a game's quality? Are you dense? That's what scores are for!


Well naturally a good critic will need to play a game rather extensively in order to get a good feel for how everything fits together. But unless you're actually writing a review, you do NOT need to have an extensive amount of knowledge about all the game's inner workings to determine whether or not the game is any fun.


Wrong. The words "all" and "always" mean two entirely different things. Stop failing and learn to speak English.


Look. Names will be easy to remember regardless of whether or not everyone is forced to use the same format.

[SIZE=7]YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FORCE ALL PLAYERS TO USE THE SAME FORMAT IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE AN EASY TO USE SYSTEM!!! NAMES WILL STILL BE EASY TO REMEMBER, EVEN IF SOME PEOPLE HAVE SINGLE NAMES AND OTHERS HAVE COMPOUND NAMES!!![/SIZE]


Meh, semantics.

Do you even own XIV?

[Rhianu]

Do you even own XIV?

Would I be able to post on these forums if I didn't?

[DeadRiser]

Would I be able to post on these forums if I didn't?

Actually yeah I think so, because you just have to be registered with Square Enix.
And there are PLENTY of people on these forums that aren't playing either.

[Abriael]

Do you even own XIV?

I'm seriously starting to doubt that.

You keep tabs on every single video game on the market? Right, that sounds plausible... not. -_-

keeping tabs on every aspect that involves one's job is pretty much a given. It's not needed to play every game to keep tabs on their general status and on updates.
That's what press releases and websites are for.

Review scores cannot be used as an indication of a game's quality? Are you dense? That's what scores are for!

No. Review scores are an arbitrary way to synthetize something that should not be synthetized, simply because it's too complex. Considering the state of gaming journalism at the moment, the fact that most journalists play games an extremely limited amount of time in order to review more games (and get more money, since they're paid by the page or by the article in 99% of cases), the fact that professionalism in gaming journalism is very, very rare (as most journos are amateurs with no professional education, or even a basic concept of professional integrity), which leads to biases, overly personal point of vies and double standards, when not even to indirect corruption, scores are not a valid way, for a customer, to assess the validity of a game.

Well naturally a good critic will need to play a game rather extensively in order to get a good feel for how everything fits together. But unless you're actually writing a review, you do NOT need to have an extensive amount of knowledge about all the game's inner workings to determine whether or not the game is any fun. THAT can be determined in a rather short amount of time.

Aren't we talking about review scores? So yeah, we're talking about "actually writing a review". You cannot review a MMORPG decently without getting at the very least halfway to the initial cap. Most reviewers that gave very low scores to FFXIV can be exposed in their level 10 characters just by looking at the lodestone.

Wrong. The words "all" and "always" mean two entirely different things. Stop failing and learn to speak English.

First you complain about semantics, then you tell others to learn english?

[SIZE=7]BLAH BLAH BLAH[/SIZE]

Writing in size 7 and all caps doesn't add validity to your points.

[Rhianu]

Writing in size 7 and all caps doesn't add validity to your points.

Okay, look. Your argument is that people won't be able to remember names easily if the names are not all in the exact same format. That argument is fundamentally flawed, and just plain flat out WRONG!

I know your argument is wrong because I have absolutely no trouble remembering the names of friends on my Xbox Live account, despite the fact that there is no consistent format for those names. The same goes for Steam. Some of the people on my Steam friend list have single-word names. Other people have compound names. The same is true of my MSN messenger account.

Yet despite the mixture of compound names and single names, I never have any trouble remembering them or keeping them straight, and I've never heard of anyone else having such trouble, either. So please, stop insisting that people would have trouble remembering names. They wouldn't. Period.