Removal of Surnames

[BelgianRofl]

It's always funny how the opposite of a troll's arguments is normally true.

It's funny how you're defending the systems in a game that won Worst Game of 2010 and has a 49/100 meta score. The small minority of people who gobble up whatever SE puts on their plate do not have valid opinions on what makes a system good or not.

[Kidkaze]

The name I wanted to use for Final Fantasy XI (Kaze) was taken, many times over in fact. I had to play about a bit and name I decided upon was Kayze. Then I saw many variations of Kayze after some time, and I wouldnt think that Kayze is exactly a popular name >_>

I am (selfishly) pro surname in all its entirety, and really, how hard is it to think up of a surname to supplement the first? Really guys, we are playing a fantasy game, have a little imagination.!

[Rhianu]

This is as false as it could be, as any blanket statement. Should they provide me with the option of using numbers in my name? because you know, that's an OPTION!

Whether or not special characters should be permitted is completely different issue and not even remotely related to the discussion at hand. Some might argue that special characters are distracting from the fantasy setting, which is a perfectly valid stance.

There is absolutely nothing distracting about the absence of surnames. Allowing players the choice would not have the same impact as allowing special characters. Not even close.

Basic areas need basic rules.
-Remembering everyone by name and surname -> rather easy. You do that in real life every day.
-Having to remember surnames AND remember who has a surname and who doesn't -> harder, more confusion, as the presence of many people without surnames would encourage people to remember only names even for the ones that have surnames.

Actually, it is neither easier nor harder to remember two names than it is to remember one. It wouldn't be that difficult to remember that Billy Bobcat and Johnny are two different people, despite the fact that only one of them has a surname.

[Reika]

There is a cute Lalafel named Prinny Hero..... i think that name ROX!

[Abriael]

It's funny how you're defending the systems in a game that won Worst Game of 2010 and has a 49/100 meta score. The small minority of people who gobble up whatever SE puts on their plate do not have valid opinions on what makes a system good or not.

Thanks for identifying yourself even more as a troll. It wasn't really needed though. Like metascore and silly awards given by website mean anything (especially since they're based on the state of the game 6 months ago).

I find it more funny how people that obviously hate the game and will never like it waste part of their life to troll the forums instead of finally moving on with their lifes.

Whether or not special characters should be permitted is completely different issue and not even remotely related to the discussion at hand. Some might argue that special characters are distracting from the fantasy setting, which is a perfectly valid stance.

There is absolutely nothing distracting about the absence of surnames. Allowing players the choice would not have the same impact as allowing special characters. Not even close.

They are both options. You said that options are always good. I simply demonstrated how you pulled out a completely illogical blanket statement.

Actually, it is neither easier nor harder to remember two names than it is to remember one. It wouldn't be that difficult to remember that Billy Bobcat and Johnny are two different people, despite the fact that only one of them has a surname.

Not really. When you allow a large number of Option 1, which is simpler than Option 2, but still part of Option 2, people will be naturally encouraged to remember only the Option 1 part of Option 2.

But anyway, ill let this thread sink. The vast majority of posters is obviously in favor of surnames, trolls have been exposed, surnames won't go away and everyone knows it.
Ultimately it's so minor that it's not even worth discussing.

[Synthesis]

I am against removal of surname thing. I like surnames, makes game different !

No xxxSephirthxxx, xxSephirothxX, etc....

[JakeRoon]

I miss the /tell <t> command for sure,why did they remove that it helped alot....

[BelgianRofl]

Abriael, the fundamental systems of this game earned it a 49% meta score. SE wouldn't have fired Tanaka for implementing those crappy systems into it's game if everyone was like you - a person who gobbles up whatever slop SE dumps on his plate.

You should be thanking people like me who are offended that SE would even release such a heap after making us anxiously wait 5 long years.

[TzinnFoxeye]

I vote to keep the surnames. The lack of clever/cool surnames is the problem of the person who made the character.

[Rhianu]

Thanks for identifying yourself even more as a troll. It wasn't really needed though. Like metascore and silly awards given by website mean anything (especially since they're based on the state of the game 6 months ago).

I'm pretty sure that game scores and awards mean a lot, since they can and do have a direct impact on sales numbers. And honestly, the game really hasn't changed all that much since launch. Sure, the lag is pretty much gone, and most of the problems with the UI have been ironed out, but it's still pretty much the same game. Even after all the updates, I'd say that on a scale of 1 to 10, FFXIV only deserves maybe 1 or 2 more points today than it received from critics at launch.

They are both options. You said that options are always good. I simply demonstrated how you pulled out a completely illogical blanket statement.

The difference is that one of the options can be distracting from the fantasy setting of the game, while the other cannot. Therefore, it is illogical to say that they are equivalent.

Not really. When you allow a large number of Option 1, which is simpler than Option 2, but still part of Option 2, people will be naturally encouraged to remember only the Option 1 part of Option 2.

Uh... no. People won't have any problem remembering different names, even if some people have surnames and some don't. It will not make anything more difficult in the slightest, I assure you.