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    Roth_Trailfinder's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoTechie View Post
    I'd like to see your source where "increased by" strictly means "to add" because if you say something has "increased by three times" does that mean you're adding three times to it? no, it means you multiply it by three. By the same token "increased by 300%" is quite ambiguous.
    The math was never the issue here; the only thing in question is how the English translated into Math, thus a language barrier. (the true meaning of "increased by")
    Perhaps you are the one who was truly confused all along?
    Yes, "increased by three times" does mean that you multiply it by three. However, you left out the step that follows it, where you have to actually factor in the base amount.

    If I have 4 nachos, and I increase that by three times, then I am taking those initial four, and adding to them three times their number, or 12, for a grand total of 16 nachos. Increase BY three times.

    Conversely, if I increase that to three times, then it is a simple multiplication problem (4 nachos times 3 = 12 nachos).

    I will agree though, that it was the Math<==> English barrier that confused things. Math is very precise. English is .. not. How often do people use a double negative to mean a single negative? How often do people say "I don't know nothin'" when they really mean that they don't know anything, or that they actually do know nothing? People don't always use words that mean exactly what they are trying to say.

    The point is .. the English patch notes explicitly stated that the node increase was by 300%. That has a specific mathematical meaning. Apparently, however, the patch notes were in error, and were not intended to convey that particular meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post


    I will agree though, that it was the Math<==> English barrier that confused things. Math is very precise. English is .. not.
    If you write math in English you have to be very accurate with your context. As suddenly each word because a piece of a formula. They could of avoided that by either direct translation, or better phrasing in English. [Increased to 300% of the old value] [Increased by 200%] [old values x3]

    Increased by ...% might sound more fancy, but there's no need for that in patchnotes, where the players just care about data.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valinthor View Post
    Thank you all for the Posts,

    Since my last post I've done 60+ Favors with the following results....

    On average I would gather 17-18 materials per 5 Favors with the Lowest being 13 and Highest being 22.

    Looking forward to seeing your results and whether or not anyone is gathering more then pre-patch per favors.
    From my own results and what others posted, it seems to be (on average) the same as before.
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 08-29-2015 at 09:55 AM.

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