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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcakesu View Post
    AST can finally compete for a spot in parties and it's like the end of the world.
    I think this is the thing they're really freaking out about. Now they're actually sweating the fact that they might have to compete against the new guy on their skill, rather than raw potency superiority. Now, a skilled AST has a chance to be a serious raider, and might replace a button-mashing WHM who was secure in his role before because pre-buff ASTs just couldn't deliver the same healing capacity.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    Exactley its fine and dandy to fix a class problems but not at the expenses of other classes .
    ...what exactly did WHMs lose in this patch? Because I sure didn't see any WHM nerfs in the list of patch notes. Is there a stealth nerf that I'm unaware of? No?

    WHMs are not in any way weaker than they were before the patch.
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  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by EinherjarLucian View Post
    I think this is the thing they're really freaking out about. Now they're actually sweating the fact that they might have to compete against the new guy on their skill, rather than raw potency superiority. Now, a skilled AST has a chance to be a serious raider, and might replace a button-mashing WHM who was secure in his role before because pre-buff ASTs just couldn't deliver the same healing capacity.
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    What exactly are you expecting, 900 potency cure 1s?
    I don't think that would be a bad thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gist View Post
    I don't think that would be a bad thing...
    Wow, I'm having flashbacks to Tera and all of the literally insane people who played elins and saw absolutely nothing wrong with them having the best attack range in the game out of all races.

    Sorry, but Game balance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Your favorite class being more powerful

    Don't fret my child, all you have to do you is cry a bit more they will se it fore sure , i am possitive by 3.1 you will get Aetherflow-like ability, 2-3 more accuracy ignoring DoTs and for the sake of it you will get your own personalised divine seal on top of synastry.
    YES! Let's invent a whole bunch of stuff that no one asked for, then argue against it like they DID!

    *ahem*

    You Whine Mages can cry for it all you want, but they are NEVER going to give you a 30 second hallowed ground, deathflare, and access to all summoner and scholar pets at the same time!

    Your move.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    and now we can be matched.
    No, you really, REALLY can't...

    And the fact that you cannot seem to understand this suggests that you're probably not very at WHM to begin with...
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    Last edited by RichardButte; 08-29-2015 at 03:55 AM.

  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    Don't fret my child, all you have to do you is cry a bit more they will se it fore sure , i am possitive by 3.1 you will get Aetherflow-like ability, 2-3 more accuracy ignoring DoTs and for the sake of it you will get your own personalised divine seal on top of synastry.
    Kneejerk reaction is kneejerk.
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Ppl were just used to asts being weak sch/ whm jr.
    Now tht ast has something to defend themselves with the schs & whms feel threatened lol.
    So what is it, you want us to not be a normal healer?
    I'm a SCH main. I don't feel threatened by ASTs at all. I welcome my new AST friends to the Healing Team.
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    I mean, it would really solidify WHM's identity as the premier healer, wouldn't it? If not higher potency in the base healing kit, then lower Benediction CD to 3 minutes...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
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    I think I found the alternate account of this user when they hit their daily post limit.
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    Last edited by Gist; 08-29-2015 at 04:10 AM. Reason: Why is there a character limit?

  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by EinherjarLucian View Post
    I think this is the thing they're really freaking out about. Now they're actually sweating the fact that they might have to compete against the new guy on their skill, rather than raw potency superiority. Now, a skilled AST has a chance to be a serious raider, and might replace a button-mashing WHM who was secure in his role before because pre-buff ASTs just couldn't deliver the same healing capacity.
    I'd agree with you but the fact remains "they" are players who are still newish 60 on a single healing job, if that, and do not actually raid. They are still stuck in the 2.X mindset of healing and the fact these buffs have been spotlighted outshine the fact they have yet to explore the full potential of their own main.

    Assize, 300 potency free heal AND aoe damage AND 10% mana restore? Yes, plz.

    To further illustrate my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    What exactly are you expecting, 900 potency cure 1s?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gist View Post
    I don't think that would be a bad thing...
    WHM has more than this. Cure 2 + tetra + assize.

    You're welcome.
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    Last edited by PetiteMalFleur; 08-29-2015 at 04:49 AM.

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