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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    It could be said, but no one would buy it.
    Cause nothing say "excelling at the healing role" like a SCH who refuses to use supervirus. /sarcasm
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  2. #42
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    WHM doesn't need buffs, still a better progression healer than AST.
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  3. #43
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    This has nothing to do with who is the "better" healer. Please don't drag that sort of whining into this.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    This has nothing to do with who is the "better" healer. Please don't drag that sort of whining into this.
    Ok and your OP you directly compare WHM to AST and SCH. Also WHM can reduce magic damage if E4E proc's though obviously unreliable.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentt View Post
    Ok and your OP you directly compare WHM to AST and SCH. Also WHM can reduce magic damage if E4E proc's though obviously unreliable.
    Which is not the same as calling anyone better/worse. It's simply pointing out a gap in WHM's toolkit:
    * SCH can reduce a big hit, physical or magical.
    * AST can reduce a big hit, physical or magical.
    * WHM can reduce a bit hit, physical only.

    I'm not calling anyone better or worse, I'm just asking that the missing piece be filled in.

    (It's worth noting that, RNG aside, only physical hits can proc E4E.)
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Um... what? You're putting an awful lot of works in my mouth O.o

    Anyways, some of you all are acting like the sky is falling. SCHs will be still be kings of mitigation and noct ASTs will still have much better shields than WHM. All this does is make one of WHM's abilities not useless against big magic hits. Really that's all. It's a tiny change/request.
    Maybe read it again if u dont understand lol um what.

    If you can't tell already SE is slowly peeling off the mitigation from whms.
    I wouldn't be surprised if they took away virus too from cross class in 4.0 lol

    If it was a tiny request u'd just post something like the usual

    SE plz give whm supervirus access k thnx.

    Then end post with a funny gif or something to show ur not tht serious lol
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Which is not the same as calling anyone better/worse. It's simply pointing out a gap in WHM's toolkit:
    * SCH can reduce a big hit, physical or magical.
    * AST can reduce a big hit, physical or magical.
    * WHM can reduce a bit hit, physical only.

    I'm not calling anyone better or worse, I'm just asking that the missing piece be filled in.

    (It's worth noting that, RNG aside, only physical hits can proc E4E.)
    ^ very true. I just wanted to add to this saying that not only can they reduce raidwide magic dmg, but they also have multiple ways of doing it such as SS and the newly buffed CU.

    Pre 3.0, we had proshell and there was a little bit of balance in the sense WHM could keep a little magic mitigation for the entire fight, even though it wasn't as strong. With heavensward, there's no reason to restrict WHM from magic mitigation. If not via supervirus, then perhaps a rework of fluid aura or something.
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  8. #48
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    Could it be because WHM isn't mean to be a mitigation type healer but a pure type ? Hence the reduction on SS (though more for balance) and protect ? :0
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  9. #49
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    I don't think Whm should get super virus.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noira View Post
    Could it be because WHM isn't mean to be a mitigation type healer but a pure type ? Hence the reduction on SS (though more for balance) and protect ? :0
    Neither of those changes had anything to do with a philosophy that WHM should not have mitigation.
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