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  1. #71
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    RyouAkizuki's Avatar
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    Katha Kagon
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by NimueAstolat View Post
    You forget that Synastry duration can also be increased. You trade the 30 extra seconds to be able to heal 2 people at once. Even if you aren't healing the same target for the entire duration, and heal another target you will still put out more healing than a WHM using divine seal. AST heal CDs are better than WHM now.
    What? Synastry can at best be increased by 5 seconds... but you're wasting time casting Celestial Opposition during that time. Time dilation WILL extend the TANKS buff, but the second yours goes off, so does theirs, so its worthless.
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  2. #72
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Quote Originally Posted by NimueAstolat View Post
    This patch was just to appeal to the casuals who couldn't learn how to play their class right, which leads us to a equal healer that can also buff the party. Which is what makes it broken.
    Uhm no, this patch is needed to make AST "almost" equal when it comes to abilities and uniqueness compared to the other two healers. Now AST is good, and can be an absolute OP healer in the hand of really good players, same as the other two healers. A healer who CAN buff the party, the way it should be, working as intended.
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  3. #73
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Quote Originally Posted by NimueAstolat View Post
    Benedicition will never be used if things go right. Assize is mainly a dps/mp management tool. Divine Seal is worse than Synastry. I agree that AST should have better MP management, it's one of the things they should have actually buffed.
    If things go right AST would be the best class because it only has 1 emergency heal, let's be real.
    Divine Seal is worse than synastry but has 60 seconds cooldown.
    Assize even if it's a dps/mp managament tool it's still an instant 300 potency heal in area.

    Oh and i would like to know where can I find a DRG/BLM/SMN that deals 7000 DPS so i can use balance on him to compete with WHM 700 DPS with 100% uptime.
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  4. #74
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    Nicolae Winchester
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    This entire thread is hilarious.

    Astro is competitive now, that is it. Hefty buffs in some niche scenarios, maybe. Ultimately AST will be "welcomed" back into Savage Alex now and not be passed over barring crazy circumstances.

    The Cards are still RNG, so bitching about those seems trivial as you can never GUARANTEE a specific one will ALWAYS be the one you use.

    I was a "good/decent" Astro back when Alex Savage first came out and I ended up going back to SCH due to it being WAY easier and getting more out of it for being easier. Hopefully these buffs/changes bring Astro up to par.

    I will agree, to some degree, that anymore BUFFS might start to make it TOO GOOD. It's at a good place now to start tweaking some of the numbers and fine tuning.
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  5. #75
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by NimueAstolat View Post
    AST was never meant to be a strong healing job, it was always meant to be weaker than the others to justify the use of buffs. AST was always capable, it just required good people to play it, which is why the forums cried over healing buffs, because this community sucks in general at this game.
    I have to say, if you are this butthurt and threatened over AST now being viable, then you must suck at this game just as much as the people you're insulting.
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  6. #76
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Anyone without experience playing all three healers at 60 really should abstain from spreading too much doom and gloom. Speculation is one thing, but the claims that are flying around in this and in other threads are pretty absurd considering that we are on Day 1 of Patch 3.07.

    - Suddenly WHM is dying (according to the forums, WHM has been dying of consumption or some other mysterious soap opera/Victorian-esque disease since 2.x, so this isn't news)
    - SCHs are marching in the streets because Nocturnal Field effects, namely Aspected Benefic, have gained a miniscule amount of shielding potency over base Galvanize effects (hint: Galvanize is not the entire SCH toolkit, nor is it Noct AST's)
    - ASTs are now the most desired healers ever (as of...this morning...)

    Just...stop.

    As for the need for AST buffs, anyone running even a bit of napkin math or, god forbid, a parser, could explain why changes were necessary. Whether or not these changes were excessive or insufficient we will find out by playing for a bit longer than half a day.
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  7. #77
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    Nimue Astolat
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RyouAkizuki View Post
    Time dilation WILL extend the TANKS buff, but the second yours goes off, so does theirs, so its worthless.
    Ah this i didn't know I thought Time dialtion did work with synastry.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    If things go right AST would be the best class because it only has 1 emergency heal, let's be real.
    What's real about it? I haven't had to use Benediction in my a1s clears yet. It's a skill you won't use 90% of the time if your group is decent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Uhm no, this patch is needed to make AST "almost"
    AST was almost equal, what they needed to do was make the buffs more reliable not buff the healing equal to whm.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    I have to say, if you are this butthurt and threatened over AST now being viable, then you must suck at this game just as much as the people you're insulting.
    I never cried over not healing good enough as a AST, not something a lot of people on this forum could say.
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  9. #79
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    A'rhyn Tia
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    Shiva
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NimueAstolat View Post


    AST was almost equal, what they needed to do was make the buffs more reliable not buff the healing equal to whm.
    What are you talking about? AST was anything but equal. It wasn't even close to equal. AST is equal now because the job can actually heal, as long as my cards dont heal, i can't call myself a healer. if we go by your logic they would need to buff our cards into op'nes. A thing that would kill the whm instantly because then it would be AST/SCH.
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  10. #80
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    I've never cried about the fact that WHM will be replaced by AST, and I main WHM. I don't feel threatened by AST.
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