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  1. #31
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    Ryaz's Avatar
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I'm a MCH with full dex gear and I've had 1k more health than the tank before (a PLD) during expert runs. Hell, I had more health than both of the tanks during an A4 run once. Though I agree having a couple fending accessories is absolutely unnecessary, it's not going to keep you from running the dungeon successfully.

    Personally, I think it'd be cool if there were encounters where having a bit more health would help the dps survive instead of having everything be a full on dps race. Mix things up a bit.
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 08-25-2015 at 11:20 AM.

  2. #32
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    Amiaze's Avatar
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    Genevieve Mhakaracca
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Shyluv View Post
    I once had a ninja with 2 VIT accessories. When I asked why, he said, "so I don't have to worry about moving out of aoe so I can keep my DPS up."
    I'm all for players doing what they want to do and playing how they want to play.

    But this reasoning made the healer within me rage so very hard just now. I've always made a point of not healing or raising anyone whom I think is purposefully eating AoEs that they have no business eating, or who purposefully pulls an enemy away from the tank. This does not give me reason to change my tune.
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    Last edited by Amiaze; 08-25-2015 at 11:34 AM.
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  3. #33
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    Ahraliah Moon
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    Mateus
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Luckily, the tank also thought it was BS. He told the ninja to equip the proper accessories and that if he didn't make an obvious attempt to move out of AOE he would be vote kicked. The ninja refused and then said, "ok fine. I will if u will. U have full str accessories." And then the ninja was vote dismissed.
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  4. #34
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    Hypnotic13371337's Avatar
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    Ryligh Kell
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seryne View Post
    Well that makes perfect sense. Who doesn't like having lots of health? /s
    Tanks with str items on
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  5. #35
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    Derek Skyshadow
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    This is Fractal. As a second DPS, "just enough that the duty is completed" can honestly mean going AFK for the whole run because it can be completed with 1 DPS; that doesn't mean that it's ok for them to do that, or pull 400 DPS as a DRAGOON (the strongest single-target DPS job right now) at level 60. If a healer or tank performs their role equivalent of what the DRG was doing, it's most likely a wipe. It's only "ok" because the other DPS was picking up the slack.

    This doesn't have to be "min-max srs business", but honestly the misconception that so many players have that performing your correct DPS rotation is min-maxing, is why DPS checks are some of the most frustrating things that this game has. When you play poorly and still complete the duty, it's only because someone else on the team had to carry the extra weight.
    This.
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  6. #36
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    Stormrider's Avatar
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    Storm Rider
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    Balmung
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    Miner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    Was doing A1 yesterday and wondering why a healer had almost 17k health had all Vit acc and assumed put all their extra points into Vit as well.
    Probably their PvP spec and gear set.
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  7. #37
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    Niqote's Avatar
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Tonberry
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    Botanist Lv 100
    It's entirely possible that this was the Dragoons polite way of saying 'I play with too many bad tanks and rip aggro so often that I feel like I need this HP as a security measure'

    He was not rude about it. He just said he likes some extra HP.
    While an unfortunate nerf to his potential... you never know the reason unless you know that person.
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  8. #38
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    Derek Skyshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    It's entirely possible that this was the Dragoons polite way of saying 'I play with too many bad tanks and rip aggro so often that I feel like I need this HP as a security measure'

    He was not rude about it. He just said he likes some extra HP.
    While an unfortunate nerf to his potential... you never know the reason unless you know that person.

    Lol, okay. You're right. That's EXACTLY why he was wearing vit accessories.

    How could I have not realized this.
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  9. #39
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    It's entirely possible that this was the Dragoons polite way of saying 'I play with too many bad tanks and rip aggro so often that I feel like I need this HP as a security measure'

    He was not rude about it. He just said he likes some extra HP.
    While an unfortunate nerf to his potential... you never know the reason unless you know that person.
    The only way he could ever pull agro with 400 DPS is if the other 3 party member simultaneously disconnect.

    You can wear full Mind accessories and allocate all your points into Piety as a melee DPS for all I care, but if you are jumping into group content, please understand that you become dead weight to your team for doing so, and that they have every right to kick you for it if that is what they wish.
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    Last edited by Odett; 08-25-2015 at 12:38 PM.

  10. #40
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    Niqote's Avatar
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Tonberry
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    The only way he could ever pull agro with 400 DPS is if the other 3 party member simultaneously disconnect.

    You can wear full Mind accessories and allocate all your points into Piety as a melee DPS for all I care, but if you are jumping into group content, please understand that you become dead weight to your team for doing so, and that they have every right to kick you.
    How is it, that you know this particular players DPS?
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